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Post by Unmerited on Apr 12, 2023 10:43:20 GMT -8
Ok Let's see if I have this straight. There’s only one supreme Lord over all the world, and that’s God. We are told in the Old Testament that this whole concept of dominion was shared with Adam and Eve. To me that means man was given dominion over the earth to be vice-regents for God, that is, vice kings to represent God’s reign on this planet. We blew it and the earth was subject to the power of Satan. That power of Satan was dealt not just a significant blow but a fatal blow by Christ in his incarnation. God set that up right before Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden. As God put into play a system by which human beings could find pardon for sin. God killed an animal and made garments for the man and woman to cover the nakedness that now brought them shame (Genesis 3:21). In doing so, God painted a picture of what He would do thousands of years later when the Perfect Lamb was slain to take away our sin (John 1:29; Revelation 13:8). Once they were kicked out of the garden it wasn't so easy to be a farmer. It took some hard work and sweet. I don't think they no longer had dominion over the animals so you had to be careful out there you didn't get eaten by a bear or a lion. So I think you could safely say the ground was cursed (Changed). In the beginning God said everything he had created was good. After the fall I think the opposite is true. The man who was designed to walk with God in unbroken fellowship had fallen from that exalted position, he was doomed to live in a broken state, in a broken world, apart from ongoing communion with a holy God. That sounds like hell doesn't it? Maybe without the flames, unless you lived in Sodom and Gomorrah or Pompeii. And as praiseyeshua Pointed out in Romans 8:22 For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. 23 And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. And this is what we're waiting for: The New Heaven and the New Earth. Revelation 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. Come soon Lord Jesus! I've thought about writing something on this subject for some time now. I've collected notes over the years. I would title it " The God experience" I believe is accurate to say that God has given man the opportunity to "have it his way" in this. To be "gods" over their dominion. In doing so, I believe God has given us a means to truly understand the difficulties and responsibilities that exist within Divinity. I know some will not like this..... but when we struggle trying to influence others and direct those we care about to the right things..... We get just a little taste of what it is like for God. I know many people don't see "God" from this perspective but I must admit.... the more I live. The more I learn.... the more I do. I can't help but see the trouble I've caused for God. For the One that so truly loves me/us. I know the Calvinist sees God as a dictator but I honestly believe that is silliest thing a person could ever want from someone else. In our struggles to control our surroundings, we can see the VALUE of the struggle. I believe God just don't want HIS WAY.... I believe He looks for corporation. He wants it.... OUR WAY. For us to willingly agree. God wants us to AGREE...... A willing choice of the mind. A corporation in thought and essence. Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed? Sounds good to me. The thing about agreeing with someone, What works for me is I agree that I don't know everything and there's a whole world full of people that I could learn things from. What to do what not to do what works what doesn't work. Apply that to Christendom and there's a huge number of things I can learn from my brothers and sisters in Christ. Your study "The God Experience" sounds awesome to me. And I would definitely be looking forward to it if you choose to make it available to us. What you posted above about God giving us the opportunity to have it our way definitely shows us how difficult it is. My favorite saying is what I've learned over the past 75 years is that my way never works God's way always works. And I'm so thankful that he had his hand upon me all those years of doing it my way. I find it amazing I survived this long. I never thought of this parable along these lines before but the Prodigal Son wanted to do it his way and father gave him his inheritance and let him have at it. When he found himself feeding those pigs he realized he would be better off being a servant in his father's house and obeying his father's rules. It was the other brother who was stuck in his own self righteousness. |
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Post by JDS on Apr 13, 2023 4:43:18 GMT -8
Adam never lost his dominion over the earth. His children have continually "subdued" the earth and all its inhabitants. Which is what God does as well. Adam was born once and just everyone else, had to be "born again". Sin definitely robbed Adam but Adam was never created to be exactly what He was to be in Christ. When God said "let us make man in our own image and after our own likeness".... That began with Adam but it was not completed unto Christ. Ps 5:4 For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee. 1Jo 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. Are you living in a bubble? Sin has dominion over men and rules as a sovereign king who must be obeyed. The proof is that all men, without exception, die. Ro 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord. At a point in time, sin will be eliminated from the earth and the last Adam, Jesus Christ, the perfect man will reign on and for God over a perfected earth. Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. Adam lost his dominion over the earth! Adam was created the son of God (Lk 3:39) He was in the image of God, a trinity. What made him the son of God is the same thing that we who are born in the image of his fallen state must possess to become a son of God, that is, the Spirit of God. Why does anyone think Adam lost his everlasting life? It is because Adam sinned in his disobedience to God and this act, according to God, was the entrance of sin and death into the world. It was more than life that Adam lost that day, it was his glory and he was found naked. When we of Adam's race bow to our savior, Jesus Christ, we will receive the Spirit eternally, but we must wait for our glorified bodies, and receiving them, we will be finally saved. This is what the words of the scriptures teach. Ro 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ [be] in you, the body [is] dead because of sin; but the Spirit [is] life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Logic goes a long way to those of faith. Ro 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. |
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Post by praiseyeshua on Apr 13, 2023 6:51:00 GMT -8
Ps 5:4 For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee. 1Jo 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. Are you living in a bubble? Sin has dominion over men and rules as a sovereign king who must be obeyed. The proof is that all men, without exception, die. Ro 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord. At a point in time, sin will be eliminated from the earth and the last Adam, Jesus Christ, the perfect man will reign on and for God over a perfected earth. Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. Adam lost his dominion over the earth! Adam was created the son of God (Lk 3:39) He was in the image of God, a trinity. What made him the son of God is the same thing that we who are born in the image of his fallen state must possess to become a son of God, that is, the Spirit of God. Why does anyone think Adam lost his everlasting life? It is because Adam sinned in his disobedience to God and this act, according to God, was the entrance of sin and death into the world. It was more than life that Adam lost that day, it was his glory and he was found naked. When we of Adam's race bow to our savior, Jesus Christ, we will receive the Spirit eternally, but we must wait for our glorified bodies, and receiving them, we will be finally saved. This is what the words of the scriptures teach. Ro 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ [be] in you, the body [is] dead because of sin; but the Spirit [is] life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Logic goes a long way to those of faith. Ro 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. I understood your argument the first time you made. All you're doing in this response is repeating that same claim again. I gave you Scripture that clearly states that creation was SUBJECTED to the dominion of man. Death ENTERED this world through the sin that Adam committed. Death already existed and long existed..... Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Not only does man DIE, ALL OF CREATION DIES.... Trees. Animals. Fish. Birds. All life that was formed from the EARTH... DIES because of man's sin. Also, man has the power to execute DEATH upon creation. DEATH upon this earth. That is DOMINION. Power OVER DEATH. However, man can not absolutely control his own death. He can influence it but he can not execute absolute power over it. |
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Post by JDS on Apr 15, 2023 2:59:50 GMT -8
Adam lost his dominion over the earth! Adam was created the son of God (Lk 3:39) He was in the image of God, a trinity. What made him the son of God is the same thing that we who are born in the image of his fallen state must possess to become a son of God, that is, the Spirit of God. Why does anyone think Adam lost his everlasting life? It is because Adam sinned in his disobedience to God and this act, according to God, was the entrance of sin and death into the world. It was more than life that Adam lost that day, it was his glory and he was found naked. When we of Adam's race bow to our savior, Jesus Christ, we will receive the Spirit eternally, but we must wait for our glorified bodies, and receiving them, we will be finally saved. This is what the words of the scriptures teach. Ro 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ [be] in you, the body [is] dead because of sin; but the Spirit [is] life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Logic goes a long way to those of faith. Ro 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. I understood your argument the first time you made. All you're doing in this response is repeating that same claim again. I gave you Scripture that clearly states that creation was SUBJECTED to the dominion of man. Death ENTERED this world through the sin that Adam committed. Death already existed and long existed..... Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Not only does man DIE, ALL OF CREATION DIES.... Trees. Animals. Fish. Birds. All life that was formed from the EARTH... DIES because of man's sin. Also, man has the power to execute DEATH upon creation. DEATH upon this earth. That is DOMINION. Power OVER DEATH. However, man can not absolutely control his own death. He can influence it but he can not execute absolute power over it. I think you do not understand my argument nor the scriptures. They know of only two Adams, the first and the last. The first was made a living soul and the last was made a life giving spirit. The first Adam lost his dominion because he died. The earth was created to remain forever. Dead men do not have dominion over anything. The last Adam died but rose again from the dead, never to die again. He is coming back, he says, to rule over the earth forever and ever. His dominion will never end. Ps 115:11 Ye that fear the LORD, trust in the LORD: he is their help and their shield. 12 The LORD hath been mindful of us: he will bless us; he will bless the house of Israel; he will bless the house of Aaron. 13 He will bless them that fear the LORD, both small and great. 14 The LORD shall increase you more and more, you and your children. 15 Ye are blessed of the LORD which made heaven and earth. 16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD’S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men. 17 The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence. 18 But we will bless the LORD from this time forth and for evermore. Praise the LORD. |
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Post by praiseyeshua on Apr 15, 2023 9:48:33 GMT -8
I think you do not understand my argument nor the scriptures. They know of only two Adams, the first and the last. The first was made a living soul and the last was made a life giving spirit. The first Adam lost his dominion because he died. Man was subjected to death but Adam did not immediately die. Adam lived seven generations later. Which is a very significant fact in our theology. Enoch himself knew the very man that felt the "Breath of God" make him a "LIVING SOUL". That same Enoch preached CHRIST..... Jude 1:14 It was also about these that Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of his holy ones, God defines boundaries and establishes limits in this world but man moves freely within these boundaries to his own benefit or destruction. Act 17:26 And he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place, He has given man this dominion for a reason..... Act 17:27 that they should seek God, and perhaps feel their way toward him and find him. Yet he is actually not far from each one of us, The earth was created to remain forever. Dead men do not have dominion over anything. The last Adam died but rose again from the dead, never to die again. He is coming back, he says, to rule over the earth forever and ever. His dominion will never end. It is sad to me that all you're doing is repeating claims you've heard from others. Many years ago I abandoned any and all preconceived teaches in Christian denominations and "struck out" on my own to establish my own theology. I have struggled many years to removed myself from the "voices" that surrounded me. Voices that where trying to "coerce" me to be "like just like them". Which is the goal of any and all denominations. Their goal is not to make men disciples of Christ. Their goal is to make men their own disciples. My goal has been to be just like the apostles. To learn from Christ. To seek Him... while reaching ahead. I wish I could remove these "preconceived" notions you bring to this discussion. I've struggled to "cast down any and all imaginations" that "exalt themselves above the knowledge of God". That is my goal. It is one of the reasons why I have not published/written anything for public consumption yet. I've long felt that I had MORE to learn. That I haven't completely embraced God fully. I'm not saying I'm there now. I do feel as if I just might be seeing the "light" at the end of the tunnel...... MANKIND still has dominion over this earth. Yes. Adam eventually died but his offspring still "carry on". This world we live in is our own "little garden" wherein we interact with what our Master has given us/mankind. Ps 115:11 Ye that fear the LORD, trust in the LORD: he is their help and their shield. 12 The LORD hath been mindful of us: he will bless us; he will bless the house of Israel; he will bless the house of Aaron. 13 He will bless them that fear the LORD, both small and great. 14 The LORD shall increase you more and more, you and your children. 15 Ye are blessed of the LORD which made heaven and earth. 16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD’S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men. 17 The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence. 18 But we will bless the LORD from this time forth and for evermore. Praise the LORD. Can you read verse 16 again for me. Can you pay attention to the phrase "hath he given to the children of men"?I reject the idea that God has purposed for this earth to remain forever. We look for NEW HEAVENS... .and NEW EARTH..... This place we live is a beautiful paradise garden...... PRISON...... that flourishes or suffers because of mankind. 2Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. As far as the work of Christ is concerned, Christ has dominion over man. He had it BEFORE MAN was ever created. The idea He lost dominion when Adam sinned isn't true to the Gospel message. |
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Post by JDS on Apr 17, 2023 15:36:33 GMT -8
I think you do not understand my argument nor the scriptures. They know of only two Adams, the first and the last. The first was made a living soul and the last was made a life giving spirit. The first Adam lost his dominion because he died. Man was subjected to death but Adam did not immediately die. Adam lived seven generations later. Which is a very significant fact in our theology. Enoch himself knew the very man that felt the "Breath of God" make him a "LIVING SOUL". That same Enoch preached CHRIST..... Jude 1:14 It was also about these that Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of his holy ones, God defines boundaries and establishes limits in this world but man moves freely within these boundaries to his own benefit or destruction. Act 17:26 And he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place, He has given man this dominion for a reason..... Act 17:27 that they should seek God, and perhaps feel their way toward him and find him. Yet he is actually not far from each one of us, The earth was created to remain forever. Dead men do not have dominion over anything. The last Adam died but rose again from the dead, never to die again. He is coming back, he says, to rule over the earth forever and ever. His dominion will never end. It is sad to me that all you're doing is repeating claims you've heard from others. Many years ago I abandoned any and all preconceived teaches in Christian denominations and "struck out" on my own to establish my own theology. I have struggled many years to removed myself from the "voices" that surrounded me. Voices that where trying to "coerce" me to be "like just like them". Which is the goal of any and all denominations. Their goal is not to make men disciples of Christ. Their goal is to make men their own disciples. My goal has been to be just like the apostles. To learn from Christ. To seek Him... while reaching ahead. I wish I could remove these "preconceived" notions you bring to this discussion. I've struggled to "cast down any and all imaginations" that "exalt themselves above the knowledge of God". That is my goal. It is one of the reasons why I have not published/written anything for public consumption yet. I've long felt that I had MORE to learn. That I haven't completely embraced God fully. I'm not saying I'm there now. I do feel as if I just might be seeing the "light" at the end of the tunnel...... MANKIND still has dominion over this earth. Yes. Adam eventually died but his offspring still "carry on". This world we live in is our own "little garden" wherein we interact with what our Master has given us/mankind. Ps 115:11 Ye that fear the LORD, trust in the LORD: he is their help and their shield. 12 The LORD hath been mindful of us: he will bless us; he will bless the house of Israel; he will bless the house of Aaron. 13 He will bless them that fear the LORD, both small and great. 14 The LORD shall increase you more and more, you and your children. 15 Ye are blessed of the LORD which made heaven and earth. 16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD’S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men. 17 The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence. 18 But we will bless the LORD from this time forth and for evermore. Praise the LORD. Can you read verse 16 again for me. Can you pay attention to the phrase "hath he given to the children of men"?I reject the idea that God has purposed for this earth to remain forever. We look for NEW HEAVENS... .and NEW EARTH..... This place we live is a beautiful paradise garden...... PRISON...... that flourishes or suffers because of mankind. 2Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. As far as the work of Christ is concerned, Christ has dominion over man. He had it BEFORE MAN was ever created. The idea He lost dominion when Adam sinned isn't true to the Gospel message. I can tell you have come up with your own unique theology. I agree with that. However, the rest of your theology is strange to me. Therefore, since we do not seem to be reading from the same Bible and while we are not using the same lexicon, I see no possibility of edification. Thanks for sharing. |
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Post by praiseyeshua on Apr 18, 2023 7:25:58 GMT -8
Man was subjected to death but Adam did not immediately die. Adam lived seven generations later. Which is a very significant fact in our theology. Enoch himself knew the very man that felt the "Breath of God" make him a "LIVING SOUL". That same Enoch preached CHRIST..... Jude 1:14 It was also about these that Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of his holy ones, God defines boundaries and establishes limits in this world but man moves freely within these boundaries to his own benefit or destruction. Act 17:26 And he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place, He has given man this dominion for a reason..... Act 17:27 that they should seek God, and perhaps feel their way toward him and find him. Yet he is actually not far from each one of us, It is sad to me that all you're doing is repeating claims you've heard from others. Many years ago I abandoned any and all preconceived teaches in Christian denominations and "struck out" on my own to establish my own theology. I have struggled many years to removed myself from the "voices" that surrounded me. Voices that where trying to "coerce" me to be "like just like them". Which is the goal of any and all denominations. Their goal is not to make men disciples of Christ. Their goal is to make men their own disciples. My goal has been to be just like the apostles. To learn from Christ. To seek Him... while reaching ahead. I wish I could remove these "preconceived" notions you bring to this discussion. I've struggled to "cast down any and all imaginations" that "exalt themselves above the knowledge of God". That is my goal. It is one of the reasons why I have not published/written anything for public consumption yet. I've long felt that I had MORE to learn. That I haven't completely embraced God fully. I'm not saying I'm there now. I do feel as if I just might be seeing the "light" at the end of the tunnel...... MANKIND still has dominion over this earth. Yes. Adam eventually died but his offspring still "carry on". This world we live in is our own "little garden" wherein we interact with what our Master has given us/mankind. Ps 115:11 Ye that fear the LORD, trust in the LORD: he is their help and their shield. 12 The LORD hath been mindful of us: he will bless us; he will bless the house of Israel; he will bless the house of Aaron. 13 He will bless them that fear the LORD, both small and great. 14 The LORD shall increase you more and more, you and your children. 15 Ye are blessed of the LORD which made heaven and earth. 16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD’S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men. 17 The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence. 18 But we will bless the LORD from this time forth and for evermore. Praise the LORD. Can you read verse 16 again for me. Can you pay attention to the phrase "hath he given to the children of men"?I reject the idea that God has purposed for this earth to remain forever. We look for NEW HEAVENS... .and NEW EARTH..... This place we live is a beautiful paradise garden...... PRISON...... that flourishes or suffers because of mankind. 2Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. As far as the work of Christ is concerned, Christ has dominion over man. He had it BEFORE MAN was ever created. The idea He lost dominion when Adam sinned isn't true to the Gospel message. I can tell you have come up with your own unique theology. I agree with that. However, the rest of your theology is strange to me. Therefore, since we do not seem to be reading from the same Bible and while we are not using the same lexicon, I see no possibility of edification. Thanks for sharing. I'm reading from the same Bible. Why do you believe I'm not? My comments on Enoch? I referenced the little canonical NT book of Jude. It clearly states that Enoch was the seventh from Adam. If you match this fact to the genealogies in Genesis, you will find that Adam was alive during the life of Enoch. Jude also said that Enoch preached Christ. Jud 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, Jude claimed that Enoch referenced "THE LORD".......... it is basically the same argument that Christ Himself made concerning his lineage in David. Mat 22:41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, Mat 22:42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. Mat 22:43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, Mat 22:44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? Mat 22:45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? Mat 22:46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions. I decided to seek God without any intermediary. I believe in the Individual Priesthood of the Believer. 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Post by praiseyeshua on Apr 18, 2023 7:33:49 GMT -8
I can tell you have come up with your own unique theology. I agree with that. However, the rest of your theology is strange to me. Therefore, since we do not seem to be reading from the same Bible and while we are not using the same lexicon, I see no possibility of edification. Thanks for sharing. I'm reading from the same Bible. Why do you believe I'm not? My comments on Enoch? I referenced the little canonical NT book of Jude. It clearly states that Enoch was the seventh from Adam. If you match this fact to the genealogies in Genesis, you will find that Adam was alive during the life of Enoch. Jude also said that Enoch preached Christ. Jud 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, Jude claimed that Enoch referenced "THE LORD".......... it is basically the same argument that Christ Himself made concerning his lineage in David. Mat 22:41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, Mat 22:42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. Mat 22:43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, Mat 22:44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? Mat 22:45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? Mat 22:46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions. I decided to seek God without any intermediary. I believe in the Individual Priesthood of the Believer. That I can LEARN directly from the Spirit of God. I have embraced these truths in studying the Scriptures. Perhaps you've said this because of my statement concerning the Dominion of Christ.... In review..... Php 2 is a very good place to start to dissect the teaching of the Gospel Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Notice how verse 7 begins the conversation concerning the humanity of Jesus Christ. These Scriptures establish the dominion of the Incarnate nature of Christ ABOVE all other "carnate" creations. Christ is rightfully the HEAD of all things in the earth because of His accomplishments. However, this NOT exclude the very real fact as 100 percent God, Christ never lost dominion over humanity. Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. Things of the earth and things in heaven. There are distinctions in reconciliation but is nothing to do with the absolute dominion of Divinity that existed in the Incarnate Christ. The Hypostatic Union is a complicated doctrine but I believe I am being 100 percent true to this teaching with these comments. If you believe otherwise, please let me know. Thanks |
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