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Post by Obadiah on Jun 6, 2023 7:48:26 GMT -8
Equally amazing to the doctrine of the Trinity is the doctrine of the Incarnation — that Jesus Christ is God and man, yet one person, forever. As J.I. Packer has said, “Here are two mysteries for the price of one — the plurality of persons within the unity of God, and the union of Godhead and manhood in the person of Jesus. . . . Nothing in fiction is so fantastic as is this truth of the Incarnation.”1
The early church considered the Incarnation to be one of the most important truths of our faith. Because of this, they formulated what has come to be called the Chalcedonean Creed, a statement which sets forth what we are to believe and what we are not to believe about the Incarnation. This creed was the fruit of a large council that took place from October 8 to November 1, 451, in the city of Chalcedon and “has been taken as the standard, orthodox definition of the biblical teaching on the person of Christ since that day by” all the major branches of Christianity.2 There are five main truths with which the creed of Chalcedon summarized the biblical teaching on the Incarnation:
1. Jesus has two natures — He is God and man.
2. Each nature is full and complete — He is fully God and fully man.
3. Each nature remains distinct.
4. Christ is only one Person.
5. Things that are true of only one nature are nonetheless true of the Person of Christ.
A proper understanding of these truths clears up much confusion and many difficulties we may have in our mind. How can Jesus be both God and man? Why doesn’t this make him two people? How does his Incarnation relate to the Trinity? How could Jesus have hungered (Matthew 4:2) and died (Mark 15:37) when he was on earth, and yet still be God? Did Jesus give up any of his divine attributes in the Incarnation? Why is it inaccurate to say that Jesus is a “part” of God? Is Jesus still human now, and does he still have his human body?
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Post by Ozias on Jun 6, 2023 7:59:15 GMT -8
Equally amazing to the doctrine of the Trinity is the doctrine of the Incarnation — that Jesus Christ is God and man, yet one person, forever. As J.I. Packer has said, “Here are two mysteries for the price of one — the plurality of persons within the unity of God, and the union of Godhead and manhood in the person of Jesus. . . . Nothing in fiction is so fantastic as is this truth of the Incarnation.”1 The early church considered the Incarnation to be one of the most important truths of our faith. Because of this, they formulated what has come to be called the Chalcedonean Creed, a statement which sets forth what we are to believe and what we are not to believe about the Incarnation. This creed was the fruit of a large council that took place from October 8 to November 1, 451, in the city of Chalcedon and “has been taken as the standard, orthodox definition of the biblical teaching on the person of Christ since that day by” all the major branches of Christianity.2 There are five main truths with which the creed of Chalcedon summarized the biblical teaching on the Incarnation: 1. Jesus has two natures — He is God and man. 2. Each nature is full and complete — He is fully God and fully man. 3. Each nature remains distinct. 4. Christ is only one Person. 5. Things that are true of only one nature are nonetheless true of the Person of Christ. A proper understanding of these truths clears up much confusion and many difficulties we may have in our mind. How can Jesus be both God and man? Why doesn’t this make him two people? How does his Incarnation relate to the Trinity? How could Jesus have hungered (Matthew 4:2) and died (Mark 15:37) when he was on earth, and yet still be God? Did Jesus give up any of his divine attributes in the Incarnation? Why is it inaccurate to say that Jesus is a “part” of God? Is Jesus still human now, and does he still have his human body?For most people it is obvious that Jesus will be God forever. But for some reason it escapes a lot of us that Jesus will also be man forever. He is still man right now as you read this and will be forever. The Bible is clear that Jesus rose physically from the dead in the same body that had died (Luke 24:39) and then ascended into heaven as a man in his physical body (Acts 1:9; Luke 24:50–51). It would make no sense for him to have done this if he was simply going to ditch his body and stop being man when he arrived in heaven. That Christ continued being man with a physical body after his ascension is confirmed by the fact that when he returns, it will be as a man in his body. He will return physically. Philippians 3:21 says that at his second coming, Christ “will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of his glory.” This verse is clear that Jesus still has his body. It is a glorified body, which Paul calls, “the body of his glory.” And when Christ returns, he will still have it because this verse says that he will transform our bodies to be like his. Both Jesus and all Christians will then continue living together in their bodies forever, because the resurrection body cannot die (1 Corinthians 15:42) since it is eternal (2 Corinthians 5:1). Why did Jesus become man, and why will he be man forever? The book of Hebrews says it was so that Christ could be an adequate Savior who has all that we need. “He had to be made like his brothers in all things, that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people” (2:17). First, notice that Jesus became man so that he could die for our sins. He had to be human in order to pay the penalty for humans. Second, this verse says that because Jesus is human like us, he is able to be a merciful and faithful High Priest. His humanity enables him to more fully sympathize with us and identify with us. I cannot help but believe that it is very destructive to our comfort and faith to not know that Jesus is still man and in his body. For if he is not still man in heaven, how could we have comfort knowing that he can fully sympathize with us? He can sympathize and be a faithful high priest and know what we are going through not just because he was once on earth as a man, but because he continues forever as that same man. |
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Post by Bronson on Jun 12, 2023 6:29:21 GMT -8
The Bible teaches that Jesus is really and truly God, the second person of the Trinity. And it teaches that amazing fact over and over again, in a vast number of ways. People sometimes think that the doctrine of the deity of Christ, that Jesus is God, is based on only a few passages that are controversial.
This doctrine is found over and over again in Scripture. It is pervasive. It is found on nearly every page of the New Testament in one way or other.
WE ARE writing] about the Word of Life [in] Him Who existed from the beginning, Whom we have heard, Whom we have seen with our [own] eyes, Whom we have gazed upon [for ourselves] and have touched with our [own] hands.
1 John 1:1.
Jesus is eternally God.
In the beginning was the Word…
Whenever the beginning was, wherever it was, whatever it might have been, Jesus—the Word—was already there. He had no beginning and He has no end. He is eternally God.
Jesus is equally God.
…and the Word was with God…
Jesus, the Word, was with God—equal to the Father and the Spirit.
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Post by Truther on Jun 12, 2023 7:53:07 GMT -8
Question. How much humanity is attached to God?
I mean,percentage wise?
Is God 100% man now, and is man(Jesus) 100% God now?
Does God have a flesh attachment?
Is this attachment to God a weakness or a strength?
Does God now have a human weakness melded into His Spirit being?
Was all this lingo derived per extra Biblical, post Apostolic commentary of some "church fathers"?
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Post by Theophilus on Jun 12, 2023 10:29:14 GMT -8
The Christian God is triune. Christians are monotheists. We believe in the one true living God (Deut. 6:4; 32:39; Isa. 44:8; 1 Cor. 8:6). But that does not mean that all monotheists believe in the same God. And for some of us here's where the confusion comes into play. When we speak about God, we must relate his entire identity.
So, while attesting to the “singularity” and unity of the Godhead, we also affirm just as strongly the triunity of the Godhead (Matt. 28:19). The God who is one is at the same time three in persons. We embrace both “the One” and the “Splendor of the Three,” echoing Gregory of Nazianzus, who famously wrote:
No sooner do I conceive of the One than I am illumined by the Splendor of the Three; no sooner do I distinguish Them than I am carried back to the One. When I think of any One of the Three I think of Him as the Whole, and my eyes are filled, and the greater part of what I am thinking of escapes me. I cannot grasp the greatness of That One so as to attribute a greater greatness to the Rest. When I contemplate the Three together, I see but one torch, and cannot divide or measure out the Undivided Light.
In the Godhead, there are three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. But God is one, and this one God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. We cannot deny this doctrine of the Trinity. We must hold to the unity of the divine essence (i.e., God’s “whatness,” or being) as well as the distinction of persons.
The Bible attributes deity to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit:
1. The Father (Rom. 15:6; 2 Cor. 1:3–4; 1 Pet. 1:3)
2. The Son (Acts 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Titus 2:13)
3. The Holy Spirit (Ps. 95:3, 8–9 [cf. Heb. 3:7–11]; Acts 5:3–4)
Because the Scriptures ascribe divinity to three persons but also plainly affirm that there is one God, Christian theologians in the early church spoke of what has become the Christian theological term Trinity. What is abhorrent to Jews and Muslims is most precious to Christians. We have a Triune God.
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Post by Aeliana on Jun 12, 2023 12:29:46 GMT -8
The Christian God is triune. Christians are monotheists. We believe in the one true living God (Deut. 6:4; 32:39; Isa. 44:8; 1 Cor. 8:6). But that does not mean that all monotheists believe in the same God. And for some of us here's where the confusion comes into play. When we speak about God, we must relate his entire identity. So, while attesting to the “singularity” and unity of the Godhead, we also affirm just as strongly the triunity of the Godhead (Matt. 28:19). The God who is one is at the same time three in persons. We embrace both “the One” and the “Splendor of the Three,” echoing Gregory of Nazianzus, who famously wrote: No sooner do I conceive of the One than I am illumined by the Splendor of the Three; no sooner do I distinguish Them than I am carried back to the One. When I think of any One of the Three I think of Him as the Whole, and my eyes are filled, and the greater part of what I am thinking of escapes me. I cannot grasp the greatness of That One so as to attribute a greater greatness to the Rest. When I contemplate the Three together, I see but one torch, and cannot divide or measure out the Undivided Light.
In the Godhead, there are three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. But God is one, and this one God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. We cannot deny this doctrine of the Trinity. We must hold to the unity of the divine essence (i.e., God’s “whatness,” or being) as well as the distinction of persons. The Bible attributes deity to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit: 1. The Father (Rom. 15:6; 2 Cor. 1:3–4; 1 Pet. 1:3) 2. The Son (Acts 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Titus 2:13) 3. The Holy Spirit (Ps. 95:3, 8–9 [cf. Heb. 3:7–11]; Acts 5:3–4) Because the Scriptures ascribe divinity to three persons but also plainly affirm that there is one God, Christian theologians in the early church spoke of what has become the Christian theological term Trinity. What is abhorrent to Jews and Muslims is most precious to Christians. We have a Triune God. I agree, the fact that both the Scriptures and the church assume that salvation is provided by God alone as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, it is clear that all three must equally be this God; all three together must be a trinity. Why is this the case? The reason is the basic premise repeated throughout our discussion leading up to this chapter—namely, only God can save. There are no exceptions to this rule, for any assumption of a Savior besides God is idolatrous—plain and simple. Since only the one God can save, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit save in loving interaction, the one God must be a loving interaction of Father, Son, and Spirit. This is how we come to the understanding that “God Is a Trinity.” Some, however, would still question this logic. Does the belief that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are God lead necessarily to belief in the Trinity? Some would say, for example, that this logic could easily lead to a belief in three separate gods, which would not be Trinitarian (belief in one God who is three) but tritheistic (belief in three separate gods). Is this so? No way! |
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Post by Truther on Jun 13, 2023 4:59:09 GMT -8
The Christian God is triune. Christians are monotheists. We believe in the one true living God (Deut. 6:4; 32:39; Isa. 44:8; 1 Cor. 8:6). But that does not mean that all monotheists believe in the same God. And for some of us here's where the confusion comes into play. When we speak about God, we must relate his entire identity. So, while attesting to the “singularity” and unity of the Godhead, we also affirm just as strongly the triunity of the Godhead (Matt. 28:19). The God who is one is at the same time three in persons. We embrace both “the One” and the “Splendor of the Three,” echoing Gregory of Nazianzus, who famously wrote: No sooner do I conceive of the One than I am illumined by the Splendor of the Three; no sooner do I distinguish Them than I am carried back to the One. When I think of any One of the Three I think of Him as the Whole, and my eyes are filled, and the greater part of what I am thinking of escapes me. I cannot grasp the greatness of That One so as to attribute a greater greatness to the Rest. When I contemplate the Three together, I see but one torch, and cannot divide or measure out the Undivided Light.
In the Godhead, there are three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. But God is one, and this one God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. We cannot deny this doctrine of the Trinity. We must hold to the unity of the divine essence (i.e., God’s “whatness,” or being) as well as the distinction of persons. The Bible attributes deity to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit: 1. The Father (Rom. 15:6; 2 Cor. 1:3–4; 1 Pet. 1:3) 2. The Son (Acts 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Titus 2:13) 3. The Holy Spirit (Ps. 95:3, 8–9 [cf. Heb. 3:7–11]; Acts 5:3–4) Because the Scriptures ascribe divinity to three persons but also plainly affirm that there is one God, Christian theologians in the early church spoke of what has become the Christian theological term Trinity. What is abhorrent to Jews and Muslims is most precious to Christians. We have a Triune God. I agree, the fact that both the Scriptures and the church assume that salvation is provided by God alone as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, it is clear that all three must equally be this God; all three together must be a trinity. Why is this the case? The reason is the basic premise repeated throughout our discussion leading up to this chapter—namely, only God can save. There are no exceptions to this rule, for any assumption of a Savior besides God is idolatrous—plain and simple. Since only the one God can save, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit save in loving interaction, the one God must be a loving interaction of Father, Son, and Spirit. This is how we come to the understanding that “God Is a Trinity.” Some, however, would still question this logic. Does the belief that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are God lead necessarily to belief in the Trinity? Some would say, for example, that this logic could easily lead to a belief in three separate gods, which would not be Trinitarian (belief in one God who is three) but tritheistic (belief in three separate gods). Is this so? No way! The Roman Catholic God is triune, not the first century Church's God. If you can find trinity talk in scripture, then the RCC is the successor to the church of Acts. If not, then you are Catholic. |
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Post by Bronson on Jun 13, 2023 11:02:31 GMT -8
The doctrine of the Trinity is clearly shown in the first century church as seen in Matthew 28:19, Where Jesus instructs the apostles: “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”
The parallelism of the Father, the Son, and the Spirit is not unique to Matthew’s Gospel, but appears elsewhere in the New Testament (2 Cor. 13:14, Heb. 9:14), as well as in the writings of the earliest Christians, who clearly understood them in the sense that we do today—that the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are three divine persons who are one divine being, God.
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Post by Redeemed on Jun 13, 2023 12:23:12 GMT -8
This explains everything. Why Don't Facts Change Minds? A Researcher In Human Development Explains Here’s a look into research that explains why it’s natural to resist changing your mind — and how you can get better at making these shifts. www.snopes.com/news/2022/08/11/cognitive-bias-research/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2_oZHEzVmoWz7iJK20_U1Sv3-95aBSNQgyVjI0-pQgG5Y5ocgU-NgDPv4#Echobox=1686554559There is hope for Nontrinitarianism. Renewing your mind is not easy but it is possible! Do not be conformed to this world (this age), [fashioned after and adapted to its external, superficial customs], but be transformed (changed) by the [entire] renewal of your mind [by its new ideals and its new attitude], so that you may prove [for yourselves] what is the good and acceptable and perfect will of God, even the thing which is good and acceptable and perfect [in His sight for you]. Romans 12:2 Renewing your mind is not like renewing your driver’s license or library card, which can be done quickly and doesn’t have to be repeated for months or years. Renewing your mind is more like undertaking the job of renewing and refurbishing an old house. It doesn’t happen quickly; it takes time, energy, and effort, and there is always something that needs attention. Don’t fall into the trap of believing you can renew your mind by thinking right thoughts one time. To get the mind renewed, you will have to think right thoughts over and over again, until they become rooted in your thinking—until right thoughts come to you more easily and naturally than wrong thoughts. You will have to discipline yourself to think properly, and you will have to guard against falling into old thought patterns, which can happen very easily. When it does, don’t feel bad—just start thinking rightly again. You will eventually come to the place where wrong thoughts make you uncomfortable and they just don’t fit right into your thinking processes any longer. Let me be quick to say that you should not feel condemned if you are struggling with your thought life right now or if you face struggles in the days to come. Condemnation only weakens you; it never helps you make progress. Anytime we recognize that we are allowing wrong thoughts into our minds, we should ask God to forgive us and continue pressing on toward our goal. Celebrate every victory because it helps you to not feel overwhelmed by what still remains to be conquered, and remember that God is very patient and long-suffering. He is understanding and will never give up on you.
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Post by Truther on Jun 14, 2023 4:44:59 GMT -8
Like I said, if you are a trinitarian then you are a faction(daughter) of the RCC.They invented the trinity with commentary. They were teaching that God is triune in the 4th century.Trinity is rooted in ancient paganism, which the RCC is too.No Biblical verses teach "God is triune".
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Post by civic on Jun 14, 2023 5:12:28 GMT -8
Like I said, if you are a trinitarian then you are a faction(daughter) of the RCC.They invented the trinity with commentary. They were teaching that God is triune in the 4th century.Trinity is rooted in ancient paganism, which the RCC is too.No Biblical verses teach "God is triune". The Trinity is found all over the Bible.
One God, 3 Persons- The Father, Son and Holy Spirit all each called God
All called God
The Father- Psalm 89:26, 1Corinthians 8:6, Galatians 1:1, Colossians 1:3
The Son- 1 Timothy 1:16-17,John 20:28,Titus 2:13, 2 Peter 1:1, 1 John 5:20
The Holy Spirit- Acts 5:3-4, Acts 28:25, cf Isaiah 6:8
All Creator
The Father- Isaiah 44:24, 1 Corinthians 8:6
The Son - Colossians 1:16; John 1:3
The Holy Spirit- Job 33:4, Psalms 104:30, Genesis 1:2
All Raised Jesus
The Father- 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10
The Son- John 2:19-21
The Holy Spirit- Romans 8:11
All Eternal
The Father- Psalm 93:2
The Son- Jesus Isaiah 9:6
The Holy Spirit- Hebrews 9:14
All Omniscient
The Father- Psalm 147:5
The Son -John 2:24-25
The Holy Spirit- Isaiah 40:13-14
All Omnipresent
The Father- Jeremiah 23:24
The Son - Matthew 28:18:20
The Holy Spirit- Psalm 139:7-10
All Omnipotent
The Father- Revelation 4:8
The Son- Matthew 28:18, Revelation 5:13
The Holy Spirit- Romans 15:19
The Trinity revealed in the O.T.
Genesis 1:26
Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;
Genesis 3:22
Then the Lord God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;
Genesis 11:7
Come, let Us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other."
Genesis 19:24
Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;
Isaiah 6:8
Then I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, "Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?
Isaiah 48:16
"Come near to Me, listen to this:
From the first I have not spoken in secret,
From the time it took place, I was there.
And now the Lord God has sent Me, and His Spirit."
Isaiah 61:1
The Spirit of the Lord God is upon Me,
Because the Lord has anointed Me
To bring good news to the afflicted;
He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
To proclaim liberty to captives
And freedom to prisoners;
Psalm 110:1
The Lord says to my Lord:
"Sit at My right hand
Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet."
Zechariah 12:10
"And I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him, like the bitter weeping over a first-born.
The Trinity in Acton on behalf of the saints
Romans 8
26 In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words;27 and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.
Hebrews 7
The former priests, on the one hand, existed in greater numbers because they were prevented by death from continuing,24 but Jesus, on the other hand, because He continues forever, holds His priesthood permanently.25Therefore He is able also to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men,the man Christ Jesus,
1 John 2:1
My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous;
And when God intercedes on our behalf rest assured it will come to pass !
Luke 22:32
but I have prayed for you, that your faith may not fail
Ephesians 1:3-14
3 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ. 4 For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love 5 he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will— 6 to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves. 7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace 8 that he lavished on us. With all wisdom and understanding, 9 he made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ, 10 to be put into effect when the times reach their fulfillment—to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ.11 In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, 12 in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory. 13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.
1-Paul gives praise, glory and honor to the Father in 1:3-6
2-Paul gives praise, glory and honor to the Son in 1:7-12
3-Paul gives praise, glory and honor to the Holy Spirit in 1:13-14
1-Salvation is Assigned by the Father
2-Salvation is Achieved through the Son
3-Salvation is Active from the Holy Spirit
Hence once again we see the Trinity in Action in the life of the believer!
Salvation is administered and assigned by the Father, accomplished and achieved through the Son and applied and activated by the Holy Spirit. We see the Trinity in action in the Redemption of the believer.
hope this helps !!!
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Post by Hosanna on Jun 14, 2023 10:55:56 GMT -8
The Trinity working together...I look at it this way...God thinks it, Jesus speaks, it the Holy Spirit accomplishes it.
As the Agent of Salvation, the Holy Spirit gives Christ and all the redemptive blessings he has secured to the people of God. The Spirit applies to the church what Christ has accomplished for the church.
Salvation is purposed by the Father, accomplished by the Son, and applied by the Holy Spirit. Without the Spirit’s agency in salvation, all that Christ has accomplished brings no value to us. As Scripture uniformly presents, the Spirit graciously, effectively, and permanently gives us Christ Jesus and every blessing he has secured. Our salvation is in Christ alone. Our salvation is by his Spirit alone.
SUMMARY:
Salvation is purposed by the Father, accomplished by the Son, and applied by the Holy Spirit.
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Post by Redeemed on Jun 14, 2023 11:31:14 GMT -8
The Trinity working together...I look at it this way...God thinks it, Jesus speaks, it the Holy Spirit accomplishes it. As the Agent of Salvation, the Holy Spirit gives Christ and all the redemptive blessings he has secured to the people of God. The Spirit applies to the church what Christ has accomplished for the church. Salvation is purposed by the Father, accomplished by the Son, and applied by the Holy Spirit. Without the Spirit’s agency in salvation, all that Christ has accomplished brings no value to us. As Scripture uniformly presents, the Spirit graciously, effectively, and permanently gives us Christ Jesus and every blessing he has secured. Our salvation is in Christ alone. Our salvation is by his Spirit alone. SUMMARY: Salvation is purposed by the Father, accomplished by the Son, and applied by the Holy Spirit. • Matthew 3:16, 17 “And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” • Matthew 28:19 “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.” • 2 Corinthians 13:14, “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all.” • Ephesians 4:4-6 “There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.” • Titus 3:4-6 “But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour . . .” See also John 3:34, 35; John 14:26; John 15:26; John 16:13-15; Romans 14:17, 18; Romans 15:13-17; Romans 15:30; 1 Corinthians 6:11, 17-19; 1 Corinthians 12:4-6; 2 Corinthians 1:21, 22; 2 Corinthians 3:4-6; Galatians 2:21-3:2; Galatians 4:6; Ephesians 2:18; Ephesians 3:11-17; Ephesians 5:18-20; Colossians 1:6-8; 1 Thessalonians 1:1-5; 1 Thessalonians 4:2, 8; 1 Thessalonians 5:18, 19; 2 Thessalonians 3:5; Hebrews 9:14; 1 Peter 1:2; 1 John 3:23, 24; 1 John 4:13, 14; and Jude 20, 21. The Trinity: What Is the Trinity, and What Do Christians Believe? |
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Post by Theophilus on Jun 14, 2023 11:58:49 GMT -8
Theophilus, is the first person known to have used the word “Trinity” in his work, Refutation of Autolycus (A.D. 168)
Theophilus of Antioch, (born, near Tigris and Euphrates rivers, modern Iraq—died April 180, Antioch, modern Antakya, Turkey), Syrian saint, sixth bishop of Antioch, and one of the Christian Apologists of the 2nd century.
Educated in the Greek tradition, Theophilus became a Christian as an adult, after extended deliberation, and by 170 was elected bishop of Antioch.
Theophilus taught that:
God is one absolutely perfect divine Being in three Persons. His being is what God is, in relation to the universe he created. The three are called Persons because they relate to one another in personal ways.
So when Christians talk about believing in one God in three Persons (the Trinity), they do NOT mean:
1 God in 3 Gods, or
3 Persons in 1 Person, or
3 Persons in 3 Gods, or
1 Person in 3 Gods
Rather, they mean:
1 God in 3 Persons
Therefore,
The Father is God—the first Person of the Trinity.
The Son is God—the second Person of the Trinity.
The Holy Spirit is God—the third Person of the Trinity. (The title “Holy Ghost” is an older English expression for “Holy Spirit.” Each is an acceptable translation of the phrase in the Bible.)
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Post by Truther on Jun 14, 2023 14:45:16 GMT -8
1st century Godhead teaching....
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