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Post by resurrection33 on Aug 28, 2022 12:19:44 GMT -8
I guess when you don't agree with someone, it makes you feel good to put a label on them.
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Aug 29, 2022 6:25:28 GMT -8
Post by Theophilus on Aug 29, 2022 6:25:28 GMT -8
That's an interesting topic for discussion. This morning when I was walking my dogs the thought came to me how quick we humans are to judge and to criticize (indicate the faults of someone in a disapproving way) and how slow, blind actually we are to look at what we do and say. What do you want to bet it's in the Bible?
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Post by resurrection33 on Aug 29, 2022 11:31:27 GMT -8
That's an interesting topic for discussion. This morning when I was walking my dogs the thought came to me how quick we humans are to judge and to criticize (indicate the faults of someone in a disapproving way) and how slow, blind actually we are to look at what we do and say. What do you want to bet it's in the Bible? I seem to remember the Lord telling us not to judge, or we will be judged. At first glance that might seem a rather simple statement, but we do have to put our criminals, such as murderers, behind bars.
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Aug 29, 2022 12:24:17 GMT -8
Post by Theophilus on Aug 29, 2022 12:24:17 GMT -8
Actually today the big focus is on letting criminals and murderers go free. The only control we have over that is who we elect to office. And that doesn't guarantee anything because you need a majority in order to change anything. Right now, it's defund the police and be soft on crime.
I'm more interested in taking a look and what Jesus said about judging others. I really don't think he was talking about our judicial system.
If you judge or condemn someone else, you stand to be judged or condemned according to the same standard; do not judge unsympathetically or hypocritically.
"For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." (Matthew 7:2)
When Jesus said, “Judge not lest you be judged,” He wasn’t issuing a blanket rule that people are never to judge others. A closer look at the rest of the passage illuminates the real issue Christ wanted to address: “Do not judge others, and you will not be judged. For you will be treated as you treat others. The standard you use in judging is the standard by which you will be judged.
And why worry about a speck in your friend’s eye when you have a log in your own? How can you think of saying to your friend, ‘Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye,’ when you can’t see past the log in your own eye? Hypocrite! First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend’s eye”
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Aug 29, 2022 13:50:38 GMT -8
Post by civic on Aug 29, 2022 13:50:38 GMT -8
I guess when you don't agree with someone, it makes you feel good to put a label on them. Yes there are positives and negatives attached to religious labels. The positive side is if for instance everyone was to have in their signature their affiliation with a particular religion, church group or denomination such as mormon, jehovah witness, hindu, Jew, muslim, calvinist, arminian, lutheran, protestant, catholic and everything else in between it give on a point of reference as to their basic tenants they ascribe to .
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Post by resurrection33 on Aug 30, 2022 12:58:29 GMT -8
I guess when you don't agree with someone, it makes you feel good to put a label on them. Yes there are positives and negatives attached to religious labels. The positive side is if for instance everyone was to have in their signature their affiliation with a particular religion, church group or denomination such as mormon, jehovah witness, hindu, Jew, muslim, calvinist, arminian, lutheran, protestant, catholic and everything else in between it give on a point of reference as to their basic tenants they ascribe to . I doubt most people know what tenants their churches "subscribe to." We have a long book of discipline. I doubt that one in a thousand in our church has read it.
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Aug 30, 2022 13:01:05 GMT -8
Post by civic on Aug 30, 2022 13:01:05 GMT -8
Yes there are positives and negatives attached to religious labels. The positive side is if for instance everyone was to have in their signature their affiliation with a particular religion, church group or denomination such as mormon, jehovah witness, hindu, Jew, muslim, calvinist, arminian, lutheran, protestant, catholic and everything else in between it give on a point of reference as to their basic tenants they ascribe to . I doubt most people know what tenants their churches "subscribe to." We have a long book of discipline. I doubt that one in a thousand in our church have read it. Brother unfortunately I agree with you wholeheartedly. It’s a sad commentary on most churches . Most cannot explain the gospel or what a disciple / discipleship means .
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Post by resurrection33 on Aug 30, 2022 13:13:42 GMT -8
I doubt most people know what tenants their churches "subscribe to." We have a long book of discipline. I doubt that one in a thousand in our church have read it. Brother unfortunately I agree with you wholeheartedly. It’s a sad commentary on most churches . Most cannot explain the gospel or what a disciple / discipleship means . Our Book of Discipline has nearly a thousand pages in it. I doubt if anyone wants to go from church to church, reading books of discipline of a thousand pages, till they find the perfect church. I don't think there are any perfect churches out there. Our church is going through a world-wide war, but my church is my life, and no one is going to chase me out of it.
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Aug 30, 2022 13:16:16 GMT -8
Post by civic on Aug 30, 2022 13:16:16 GMT -8
Brother unfortunately I agree with you wholeheartedly. It’s a sad commentary on most churches . Most cannot explain the gospel or what a disciple / discipleship means . Our Book of Discipline has nearly a thousand pages in it. I doubt if anyone wants to go from church to church, reading books of discipline of a thousand pages, till they find the perfect church. I don't think there are any perfect churches out there. Our church is going through a world-wide war, but my church is my life, and no one is going to chase me out of it. Can I ask what denomination?
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Post by resurrection33 on Sept 1, 2022 4:39:16 GMT -8
Our Book of Discipline has nearly a thousand pages in it. I doubt if anyone wants to go from church to church, reading books of discipline of a thousand pages, till they find the perfect church. I don't think there are any perfect churches out there. Our church is going through a world-wide war, but my church is my life, and no one is going to chase me out of it. Can I ask what denomination? United Methodist.
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Sept 3, 2022 14:45:42 GMT -8
Post by e v e on Sept 3, 2022 14:45:42 GMT -8
I guess when you don't agree with someone, it makes you feel good to put a label on them. i used to be hurt by that bullying ..was long ago… but i understood finally how theologians and pastors made the labels to prevent Us from going Home… to paradise and out of hatred of Christ i think the point is to bully others not just the labeled person so christians will be afraid of being labeled or of sticking up for anyone labeled and so to connive that souls instead of listening to God will follow the ideas of the pastors all the terms and meanings they scrambled… out of hatred of Christ
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Post by e v e on Sept 3, 2022 14:57:12 GMT -8
Yes there are positives and negatives attached to religious labels. The positive side is if for instance everyone was to have in their signature their affiliation with a particular religion, church group or denomination such as mormon, jehovah witness, hindu, Jew, muslim, calvinist, arminian, lutheran, protestant, catholic and everything else in between it give on a point of reference as to their basic tenants they ascribe to . I doubt most people know what tenants their churches "subscribe to." We have a long book of discipline. I doubt that one in a thousand in our church has read it. so where is it to read and what is ‘united methodist’ (for you)?
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Sept 4, 2022 6:07:21 GMT -8
Post by resurrection33 on Sept 4, 2022 6:07:21 GMT -8
I doubt most people know what tenants their churches "subscribe to." We have a long book of discipline. I doubt that one in a thousand in our church has read it. so where is it to read and what is ‘united methodist’ (for you)? It can be bought from Cokebury.com. "United Methodist" is the church I've always belonged to.
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Apr 7, 2023 9:36:32 GMT -8
Post by Aeliana on Apr 7, 2023 9:36:32 GMT -8
I doubt most people know what tenants their churches "subscribe to." We have a long book of discipline. I doubt that one in a thousand in our church has read it. so where is it to read and what is ‘united methodist’ (for you)? Sister and Brother are good names to use for each other. These two terms could be loosely translated as “Fellow Believer,” but the words have meaning beyond that. A sister or brother in Christ is who we are as God’s offspring. Christ Jesus spoke of God as “my Father” and “our Father,” because we share one divine Parent. I think it's very important for us to be loving and kind toward one another. Anyone who loves another brother or sister is living in the light and does not cause others to stumble. 1 John 2:10 Love for one another is evidence of a close relationship to Christ. The believer who loves his brother abides or remains in the light, which is Christ. Those who do not, in contrast, are in darkness—they are at minimum failing to obey Christ's commands. The person who loves his Sister or Brother has "no cause for stumbling." This phrase closely resembles the concept of "love your neighbor as yourself." The person who loves others has fulfilled the law and is living as they have been called to by Christ. The New Testament often refers to stumbling, falling or tripping as representative of a spiritual struggle or failure in someone's life. That would include putting unkind labels on fellow believers.
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Post by e v e on Apr 7, 2023 10:15:20 GMT -8
i think sadly, many things were misunderstood.. thanks for reminding me of that.. for His Sons and daughters are actually sons and daughters, not offspring, not sure who in more ancient times translated it that animal-like procreation way!, but because of adam, here we are in this sorry mortal situation caused by the corruption...Paul calls this the 'fleshbody'.... and it IS flesh with all its needs and wants where in Eden we were never separated from Him and there was no Death, such, as on this earth (as God warned Adam)... but His Sons will be Restored to paradise and Rule with Christ soon.. and that is all I long for
and there will be no more of this world and its death
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