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Post by Admin on Aug 30, 2022 11:55:46 GMT -8
The word "Christology" comes from two Greek words meaning "Christ / Messiah" and "word" - which combine to mean "the study of Christ." Christology is the study of the Person and work of Jesus Christ. There are numerous important questions that Christology answers: Who is Jesus Christ? Almost every major religion teaches that Jesus was a prophet, or a good teacher, or a godly man. The problem is, the Bible tells us that Jesus was infinitely more than a prophet, a good teacher, or a godly man. Is Jesus God? Did Jesus ever claim to be God? Although Jesus never uttered the words “I am God,” He made many other statements that can’t be properly interpreted to mean anything else. What is the hypostatic union? How can Jesus be both God and man at the same time? The Bible teaches that Jesus is both fully human and fully divine, that there is no mixture or dilution of either nature, and that He is one united Person, forever. Why is the virgin birth so important? The virgin birth is a crucial biblical doctrine because it accounts for the circumvention of the transmission of the sin nature and allowed the eternal God to become a perfect man. What does it mean that Jesus is the Son of God? Jesus is not God’s Son in the sense of how we think of a father/son relationship. God did not get married and have a son. Jesus is God’s Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1,14). A Biblical understanding of Jesus Christ is crucial to our salvation. Many cults and world religions claim to believe in Jesus Christ. The problem is that they do not believe in the Jesus Christ presented in the Bible. That is why Christology is so important. It helps us to understand the significance of the deity of Christ. It demonstrates why Jesus is the atoning sacrifice for our sins. Christology teaches us that Jesus had to be man so that He could die - and had to be God so that His death would pay for our sins. It is perhaps the most important area of theology. Without a proper understanding of who Jesus Christ is and what He accomplished, all other areas of theology will be errant as well. An in-depth study of Christology has incredible personal impact on the believer’s daily life. As we delve into the heart of Jesus, we begin to grasp the amazing concept that He, being fully Man and fully God, loves each of us with a never-ending love the extent of which is hard for us to imagine. The various titles and names of Christ in the Scriptures give insight into who He is and how He relates to us. He is our Good Shepherd, leading, protecting and caring for us as one of His own (John 10:11,14); He is the Light of the world, illuminating our pathway through a sometimes dark and uncertain world (John 8:12); He is the Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6), bringing tranquility into our tumultuous lives; and He is our Rock (1 Corinthians 10:4), the immovable and secure base who we can trust to keep us safe and secure in Him. www.gotquestions.org/Christology.html |
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Post by civic on Aug 30, 2022 12:07:58 GMT -8
I know a few guys on other forums who are obsessed with Christology . I will see if I can get a hold of them - Chalcedon , Jesus is YHWH and Christophany 😂
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Post by Theophilus on Aug 30, 2022 12:34:05 GMT -8
I know a few guys on other forums who are obsessed with Christology . I will see if I can get a hold of them - Chalcedon , Jesus is YHWH and Christophany 😂 Sounds good, the more the merrier as they say. Hopefully we will get a lot of participation here and some good input. I found that Jesus’ incarnational state is only implied in the Synoptic Gospels, John’s Gospel states it explicitly. This has led some to conclude that John’s Gospel reflects the beginning of a “high” Christology—i.e., a Christology that starts with Jesus’ preexisting nature as the Second Person of the Trinity. John’s Gospel affirms Jesus’ divinity by identifying Him as the Word (logos) of God I N THE beginning [before all-time] was the Word (Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself John 1:1
Who “became flesh and lived among us” And the Word (Christ) became flesh (human, incarnate) and tabernacled (fixed His tent of flesh, lived awhile) among us; and we [actually] saw His glory (His honor, His majesty), such glory as an only begotten son receives from his father, full of grace (favor, loving-kindness) and truth. John 1:14 This Word is God’s only Son For while the Law was given through Moses, grace (unearned, undeserved favor and spiritual blessing) and truth came through Jesus Christ. [Exod. 20:1.]
18 No man has ever seen God at any time; the only unique Son, or the only begotten God, Who is in the bosom [in the intimate presence] of the Father, He has declared Him [He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen; He has interpreted Him and He has made Him known].
John 1:17–18The Word was what “all Jews understood on the basis of Genesis to have been active in the creation of all things.… There was no question of this Word being something or someone created. As God’s own Word, it was intrinsic to God’s own unique identity”. From Faces of Jesus: Latin American ChristologiesTo me by stating that God, as the Word, became flesh, John’s Gospel makes God personal. Jesus is not just a transcendent representation of God, but is a full human being—God incarnate. Jesus came to be one of us! |
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Post by civic on Aug 30, 2022 12:58:45 GMT -8
I know a few guys on other forums who are obsessed with Christology . I will see if I can get a hold of them - Chalcedon , Jesus is YHWH and Christophany 😂 Sounds good, the more the merrier as they say. Hopefully we will get a lot of participation here and some good input. I found that Jesus’ incarnational state is only implied in the Synoptic Gospels, John’s Gospel states it explicitly. This has led some to conclude that John’s Gospel reflects the beginning of a “high” Christology—i.e., a Christology that starts with Jesus’ preexisting nature as the Second Person of the Trinity. John’s Gospel affirms Jesus’ divinity by identifying Him as the Word (logos) of God I N THE beginning [before all-time] was the Word (Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself John 1:1
Who “became flesh and lived among us” And the Word (Christ) became flesh (human, incarnate) and tabernacled (fixed His tent of flesh, lived awhile) among us; and we [actually] saw His glory (His honor, His majesty), such glory as an only begotten son receives from his father, full of grace (favor, loving-kindness) and truth. John 1:14 This Word is God’s only Son For while the Law was given through Moses, grace (unearned, undeserved favor and spiritual blessing) and truth came through Jesus Christ. [Exod. 20:1.]
18 No man has ever seen God at any time; the only unique Son, or the only begotten God, Who is in the bosom [in the intimate presence] of the Father, He has declared Him [He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen; He has interpreted Him and He has made Him known].
John 1:17–18The Word was what “all Jews understood on the basis of Genesis to have been active in the creation of all things.… There was no question of this Word being something or someone created. As God’s own Word, it was intrinsic to God’s own unique identity”. From Faces of Jesus: Latin American ChristologiesTo me by stating that God, as the Word, became flesh, John’s Gospel makes God personal. Jesus is not just a transcendent representation of God, but is a full human being—God incarnate. Jesus came to be one of us! Good input but not entirely true . The synoptic gospels most definitely contain the deity of Christ in numerous places . I will post some of them after work . But John’s gospel if filled with them . hope this helps !!! |
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Post by Theophilus on Aug 30, 2022 13:35:08 GMT -8
Sounds good I'll be looking forward to reading your post on this topic. This could be monumental. I found this, The Deity of Christ in the Synoptic GospelsIt's a six page PDF File jam-packed with information. Here are the first two paragraphs. At the end of Matthew 20, Jesus makes several implicit claims to deity. He assumed, for example, that His life would be a pattern for ours. Only God has the right to assume that all people made in His image should conform to His image, so that was an implicit claim of deity. And when He goes through the poetic parallelism, He calls Himself the Son of Man who came to give His life as a ransom, which is saying He is greater than great and also that His life can be a ransom for many. These are all points at
which Jesus makes implicit claims of deity.This is an important issue if you want to talk with unbelievers about the nature of the identity of Christ. Almost every unbeliever that you will meet will have a good opinion of Christ. Not all, but almost all will think He was a good man, a wise man, a good teacher, who did good and could tell us the way of life, and they will have various other good opinions of that sort. The sticking point is not whether He was good but whether He is God. That is the question. If you will spend a substantial amount of time with unbelievers, you need to know some things about the attitude of unbelievers toward the Gospels and the testimony of the Gospels toward Christ. For now I will address opinion leaders; you may not run into these ideas on the street, but these are the ideas that eventually influence the people that you run into on the street |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2022 14:19:27 GMT -8
The importance of Christology is inestimable because we are Christians. We're not Abrahamians, Mosesians, Jeremiahians, Paulians, nor Peterians. Who we say Christ is must reconcile with who Christ is in actuality. We must serve the correct Christ because if the Christ we serve is not the actual Christ, then we serve an idol of our own creation. If Jesus is God then he must be served as such. If Jesus is just a specially endowed otherwise ordinary human male, then he must be served as such. If Jesus is just a wise guy (no pun intended) then I question why he must be served at all.
One of the most basic, fundamental aspects defining a cult is that of how they define God and/or Jesus and/or themselves. The LDS, for example, have a Jesus who was just a man in the beginning that elevated to higher levels of divinity to become a god and (even though they often deny this) they have a god who was once like us, believing we will one day be like god. They call that god a God even though it is not possible by definition to have more than one omni-attributed God at the same time (polytheism is self-contradictory). The Jews, conversely, hold Jesus to be the first spirit created so Jesus is God's "only begotten" son. All other sons are created by the Son who is not God. Because these two groups follow Jesus' teachings, they call themselves "Christians." Modalists have a completely different problem because if God is absent inherent relationship, then He cannot have any experiential knowledge of love or justice and is therefore not omniscient. He may be a really wise supernatural being, but he's not the God of the Bible. Jesus then becomes an extension of a limited God, not one that is omni-attributed (despite protests to the contrary). Some cults teach we become little Christs, so the end result is that Christ is not unique; there are millions of Christs even if there is only one Jesus the Christ.
I think it fair to say most of us here claim to serve Jesus, not his teachings, and the Jesus we serve is in fact God.
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Post by Redeemed on Aug 30, 2022 15:51:34 GMT -8
Faith in the deity of Christ is necessary to being a Christian. It is an essential part of the New Testament gospel of Christ. The bad news is in every century the church has been forced to deal with people who claim to be Christians while denying or distorting the deity of Christ. What's up with that?
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Post by Obadiah on Aug 30, 2022 17:21:19 GMT -8
Civic is correct as the Bible Clearly states that Jesus is God in a number of passages. Taken by themselves, these verses provide enough evidence for the church to believe in and teach the deity of Jesus Christ. But the indirect evidence of Scripture is equally compelling. The ones Theophilus said were “only implied in the Synoptic Gospels”. The names of God are often applied to Jesus. He is called "the Mighty God, the Everlasting Father" and "Immanuel" (meaning "God with us"). Elsewhere Jesus is called "The Lord (Jehovah) our Righteousness," "God" and "Son of God." The Bible ascribes the characteristics of deity to Jesus Christ. He is described as eternal, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent and immutable. Jesus Christ is equal with God the Father. He is worshiped as God. His name is assigned equal standing with God the Father in the church's baptismal formula and in the apostolic benediction. Christ performed works which only God can do. He is creator. He is the upholder of all things.8 He forgives sin. He will raise the dead and execute judgment. Jesus Christ Himself claimed deity. He taught His disciples to pray in His name. He claimed that He and the Father were one and that He was the Son of God. He claimed that to know Him was to know God, to see Him was to see God, to receive Him was to receive God, to believe Him was to believe in God and to honor Him was to honor God, while to hate Him was to hate God. Other passages from the synoptic Gospels include: Matthew 1:22–23 All this took place that it might be fulfilled which the Lord had spoken through the prophet, Behold, the virgin shall become pregnant and give birth to a Son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel—which, when translated, means, God with us. Matthew 28:18 Jesus approached and, breaking the silence, said to them, All authority (all power of rule) in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. Matthew 4:10 Then Jesus said to him, Begone, Satan! For it has been written, You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him alone shall you serve. Matthew 28:19 Go then and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Mark 9:37 Whoever in My name and for My sake accepts and receives and welcomes one such child also accepts and receives and welcomes Me; and whoever so receives Me receives not only Me but Him Who sent Me. |
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Post by TruthSeeker on Aug 31, 2022 5:41:59 GMT -8
The teaching of the deity of Christ is drawn from the manifold witness of the New Testament. As the Logos Incarnate, Christ is revealed as being not only preexistent to creation, but eternal. He is said to be in the beginning with God and also that He is God
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God; 3 all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made. 4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. John 1:1-5
That He is with God demands a personal distinction within the Godhead. That He is God demands inclusion in the Godhead.
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Post by 101G on Aug 31, 2022 6:55:05 GMT -8
Is Jesus God? Did Jesus ever claim to be God? Although Jesus never uttered the words “I am God,” He made many other statements that can’t be properly interpreted to mean anything else.
The Lord Jesus out of his own mouth declared his deity.
John 8:51 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death." John 8:52 "Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death." John 8:53 "Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?" John 8:54 "Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:" John 8:55 "Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying." John 8:56 "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad." John 8:57 "Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?" John 8:58 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." John 8:59 "Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by."
when the Lord Jesus said, "I AM" he declared his deity.
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Post by Admin on Aug 31, 2022 7:40:10 GMT -8
101GExactly, I couldn't have said it better myself. Truer words have never been spoken. Jesus is God beyond the shadow of a doubt. That's my King!
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