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Post by Redeemed on Oct 22, 2022 9:14:57 GMT -8
The origin of the doctrine of the Trinity is the Bible, although the word Trinity is not used in the Bible.
But the Bible does give us glimpses of the Trinity, and no passage of Scripture contradicts this doctrine. Take for example how God says in the plural: “Let us make mankind in our image.” Genesis 1:26
Then God goes on to declare that He was completely alone when He created everything, stretching out the heavens and spreading out the earth by myself. “Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, and He Who formed you from the womb: I am the Lord, Who made all things, Who alone stretched out the heavens, Who spread out the earth by Myself [who was with Me]?” Isaiah 44:24
Yet Jesus was the instrument of God’s creation:
In the beginning [before all time] was the Word (Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself. 2 He was present originally with God. 3 All things were made and came into existence through Him; and without Him was not even one thing made that has come into being. John 1:1–3
For it was in Him that all things were created, in heaven and on earth, things seen and things unseen, whether thrones, dominions, rulers, or authorities; all things were created and exist through Him [by His service, intervention] and in and for Him. Colossians 1:16
Jesus had the company of the Holy Spirit who was hovering over the primordial waters
The earth was without form and an empty waste, and darkness was upon the face of the very great deep. The Spirit of God was moving (hovering, brooding) over the face of the waters. Genesis 1:2
Only the doctrine of the Trinity can explain it all.
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Post by 101G on Nov 1, 2022 14:48:04 GMT -8
The origin of the doctrine of the Trinity is the Bible, although the word Trinity is not used in the Bible. But the Bible does give us glimpses of the Trinity, and no passage of Scripture contradicts this doctrine. Take for example how God says in the plural: “Let us make mankind in our image.” Genesis 1:26
Then God goes on to declare that He was completely alone when He created everything, stretching out the heavens and spreading out the earth by myself. “Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, and He Who formed you from the womb: I am the Lord, Who made all things, Who alone stretched out the heavens, Who spread out the earth by Myself [who was with Me]?” Isaiah 44:24
Yet Jesus was the instrument of God’s creation: must disagree, if the Lord Jesus the Christ was instrument of God’s creation, in making all things as the we in Genesis 1:26, then the Lord Jesus dispel this ERROR. and here's why. Matthew 19:3 "The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?" Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female," so, the Lord Jesus the Christ didn't make all things. and he said God is a "HE". which is confirmed by Mark gospel that recorded the same event. Mark 10:6 "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female." God is a "HE" according to the Lord Jesus the Christ who never lie. 101G. |
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Post by e v e on Nov 12, 2022 23:55:13 GMT -8
the current earth, this world which is our prison,
was made by adam
who continues to maintain it
with the evil angels
God’s eden paradise reality He created
is in the other world…
adam betrayed Him.
and to avoid his judgment by God
adam gave us over to satan and his demons to torture
…that’s what daniels oven is about
those demons very much envied the beauty of us
that is, of our Original Beings ...
and they wanted and stole the beauty of us
for themselves (compare esau and jacob)
and by adams betrayal
placed our soul on this empty earth.
this world will be desolated. God did not create it.
soon all the sons and daughters of Him
all of us hurt by adam
will be reunited to Him and
go home to our eden paradise
which the sons
will make pretty forever
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 18:14:47 GMT -8
the current earth, this world which is our prison, was made by adam who continues to maintain it with the evil angels Hmmm... Can you please show us where the Bible states the earth is a prison? Can you then show us where the Bible states the earth is our prison? Can you please show us where the Bible states the earth was made by adam? Adam was a human male who died. Can you show us where the Bible states the dead human adam continues to maintain the earth? According to Colossians 1:16, all things were created and are being held together by Christ, not adam. How do you reconcile your statement and its source with this text? Evil angels are called demons. Can you show us where the Bible states adam maintains the earth with demons? If you source is not the Bible, then would you please cite the source for this content? Thx |
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Post by TibiasDad on Dec 9, 2022 21:15:54 GMT -8
The origin of the doctrine of the Trinity is the Bible, although the word Trinity is not used in the Bible. But the Bible does give us glimpses of the Trinity, and no passage of Scripture contradicts this doctrine. Take for example how God says in the plural: “Let us make mankind in our image.” Genesis 1:26
Then God goes on to declare that He was completely alone when He created everything, stretching out the heavens and spreading out the earth by myself. “Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, and He Who formed you from the womb: I am the Lord, Who made all things, Who alone stretched out the heavens, Who spread out the earth by Myself [who was with Me]?” Isaiah 44:24
Yet Jesus was the instrument of God’s creation: must disagree, if the Lord Jesus the Christ was instrument of God’s creation, in making all things as the we in Genesis 1:26, then the Lord Jesus dispel this ERROR. and here's why. Matthew 19:3 "The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?" Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female," so, the Lord Jesus the Christ didn't make all things. and he said God is a "HE". which is confirmed by Mark gospel that recorded the same event. Mark 10:6 "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female." God is a "HE" according to the Lord Jesus the Christ who never lie. 101G. 101G., Grammatically, Jesus could simply be speaking of himself in the third person. Jesus’s purpose on earth was not to defend his Deity, but to demonstrate it through his miracles and death and resurrection! This said, the wording of John’s preamble precludes your argument! John unequivocally says that “through him all things were made, and without him, nothing that has been made was made.” So John make both a positive and a reenforcing negative expression to preclude any misunderstanding of his meaning and intent! Doug |
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Post by civic on Dec 11, 2022 6:17:15 GMT -8
101G., Grammatically, Jesus could simply be speaking of himself in the third person. Jesus’s purpose on earth was not to defend his Deity, but to demonstrate it through his miracles and death and resurrection! This said, the wording of John’s preamble precludes your argument! John unequivocally says that “through him all things were made, and without him, nothing that has been made was made.” So John make both a positive and a reenforcing negative expression to preclude any misunderstanding of his meaning and intent! Doug Agreed brother ! |
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Post by Ozias on Jun 2, 2023 14:33:33 GMT -8
The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.
2 Corinthians 13:14
The Bible attributes deity to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit:
1. The Father (Rom. 15:6; 2 Cor. 1:3–4; 1 Peter 1:3)
2. The Son (Acts 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Titus 2:13)
3. The Holy Spirit (Ps. 95:3–9: Heb. 3:7–11; Acts 5:3–4)
Because the Scriptures ascribe divinity to three persons but also emphatically affirm that there is one God, Christian theologians in the early church spoke of what has become the Christian theological term, Trinity.
Therefore, In the Godhead, there are three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. But God is one, and this one God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. We cannot deny this doctrine of the Trinity. We must hold to the unity of the divine essence as well as the distinction of persons.
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Post by Theophilus on Jun 2, 2023 14:45:14 GMT -8
The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all. 2 Corinthians 13:14 The Bible attributes deity to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit: 1. The Father (Rom. 15:6; 2 Cor. 1:3–4; 1 Peter 1:3) 2. The Son (Acts 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Titus 2:13) 3. The Holy Spirit (Ps. 95:3–9: Heb. 3:7–11; Acts 5:3–4) Because the Scriptures ascribe divinity to three persons but also emphatically affirm that there is one God, Christian theologians in the early church spoke of what has become the Christian theological term, Trinity. Therefore, In the Godhead, there are three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. But God is one, and this one God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. We cannot deny this doctrine of the Trinity. We must hold to the unity of the divine essence as well as the distinction of persons. Trinitarian emphases are literally everywhere in the ministry of Christ. Beginning with his baptism, whereby the Son hears the words of his Father and receives a special anointing of the Holy Spirit, we are faced with the workings of the triune God Matt. 3:16–17. In his temptation, the Spirit thrusts Christ out into the wilderness, where he has to commit himself to believing the words of his Father. Would Christ believe what the Father had said at his baptism, or would he perform a miracle in order to prove his sonship, his messianic identity? Even at his death, we see the Son of God offering himself up by the Spirit of God to God the Father. All this is to say that Christ’s life was a revelation of the Trinitarian working of God. |
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