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Post by Bronson on Apr 22, 2023 11:29:01 GMT -8
What Exactly are angels, anyway? What are they made of, where did they come from, where do they stay? How are they like me? How are they different? If an angel should appear — if I should somehow become acquainted with one — what should I expect?
With so much misinformation accumulating today on the subject of angels, let’s go back and begin where the Bible begins.
Angels are first of all created beings — the same as us.
And just like us angels were made in Christ and through Christ and for Christ. In Colossians 1:16 we read that “all things were created” with those same intricate connections to God the Son. Christ was the cause of all created things, he was the way and the means in which they were fashioned, and He is the purpose for their very existence. For all created things, He is the where from, he is the how, and he is the why. Christ is their King and Master, just as He is ours.
But is there any reason to believe Paul was thinking beyond earthly creation in this passage? Did he really have angels in mind?
I think so as in the same verse Paul goes into an overview of what he’s including:
…things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him [by Christ], and for him.
In this deeply bonded created order, Paul takes care to include what is heavenly and invisible. Those characteristics definitely fit angels. Paul’s purpose in including them here may well have been to counter the spread of angel worship in the Colossian church which he refers to later:
Let no one defraud you by acting as an umpire and declaring you unworthy and disqualifying you for the prize, insisting on self-abasement and worship of angels, taking his stand on visions [he claims] he has seen, vainly puffed up by his sensuous notions and inflated by his unspiritual thoughts and fleshly conceit. Col 2:18
Paul conclusion reflects the teaching of Hebrews 1:14 "Angels are “ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation.” Angels are here for us.
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Post by Theophilus on Apr 26, 2023 12:16:31 GMT -8
I wonder if angels are mostly invisible. In 2 Kings 6 we have this. And Elisha prayed, 'Open his eyes, Lord, so that he may see.' Then the Lord opened the servant’s eyes, and he looked and saw the hills full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha."
So those protective Angels were there but just couldn't be seen until Elisha prayed. Billy Graham helps us see this in perspective:
Sometimes, though, angels show up in Scripture in ordinary human form. Gideon at first didn’t seem to recognize the person standing before him as an angel.
Nor did Samson’s father, Manoah — though Manoah’s wife was quicker on the uptake. “A man of God came to me,” she told her husband. “He looked like an angel of God, very awesome”.
When angels came to rescue Lot and his family from Sodom, Lot assumed they were only men as he greeted them, then invited them into his home and off the wretched streets of Sodom and showered them with hospitality.
Before rescuing Lot, these same heavenly beings had been calling on his famous uncle. “While he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day,” the passage tells us, “Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby”. Abraham also lavished hospitality on these visitors whom he first perceived as men, and after they washed up they ate Sarah’s cooking. But Abraham, the man of faith and the friend of God, seemed quicker to grasp the Lord’s presence in these “men” than Lot was.
The New Testament implies that it’s still possible to receive angelic visitors who appear to be only human. Remember that bit about this in Hebrews 13:2? We’re told, “Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it.” If you really believe in angels and would enjoy entertaining or honoring them (as a thank-you gesture perhaps for everything they do for you), consider improving your hospitality to strangers. Not until eternity will you know if any of them were angels, but the possibility anyway is exciting.
Of course, there’s an even stronger motive for being gracious and giving to those you don’t know well. Jesus said in Matthew 25:35, “I was a stranger and you took me in.” If we respect and serve strangers, the Lord counts it as service done to himself.
More frequent in Scripture than the undetected appearances of heavenly spirits are the times when there’s no mistake about it: There’s an angel on the scene.
Jacob was certain. He was heading home to the land of his grandfather Abraham and his father Isaac, when on the way, “the angels of God met him”. And his response when he saw them? It was a shout: “This is the camp of God!”. Jacob still had some wrestling to do with the Lord, but his sensitivities were on the right track. He knew God was with him.
Great OP, Angels are pretty interesting. I think we've all had encounters with angels in our lifetime whether we knew it or not.
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Post by rockson on Apr 27, 2023 5:02:17 GMT -8
It's interesting how much the Bible mentions about Angels appearing and promises that Angels will protect us. I've gone through various seminar teachings on the subject but one should stay balanced and not go off into an extreme of how much attention they put on it or them.
One way to know if one is doing this....a longing desire and quest to ask God or long for God to allow you to see one. What's important really is to see their operation in your life not really how you'd describe their appearance. We're not as well to seek to have some type of relationship with such beings and people who get into the extremes want to know their names and give thanks to them.... all out of line to do so. We give our thanks to God alone.
I believe I did see an angel once and it spoke some words to me but that was once in 65 years. I believe I have seen their activity in my life however hundreds of times in bringing protection and help my way.
Few examples. Around the year of 1994. I was driving my car down the highway at a high speed. Drove home and pulled in the driveway and turned off the car and heard a clunk. I looked under the car and saw the tire rod had fallen off at one end...not connected to the wheel. It fell apart IN MY DRIVEWAY! That was divine and I believe I could say angelic protection.
Many years later, around 2017....a different car......I heard a loud squeal when turning the steering wheel while driving. I was in a different town than my home....took the back road to go slow....every time I turned the wheel....a loud squeal. Finally got to my town and street....turned into my driveway parked the car and I noticed my steering was now different. I could turn the steering wheel all the way round it it didn't make a squeal. I called up my mechanic....he came to my house looked at it and asked me how I got it home. I drove it I said. He laughed and shook his head, and said, But Bob the steering column is disconnected from the steering rack, he said, it's not even connected to it. That why I could turn the steering now all the way around. In other words it fell apart after my very last turn into the driveway. Again like years ago....It fell apart in my driveway! God's protection and I think I can ascribe it to God's angels providing protection like Psalm 91 says they will. Lest you dash your foot against a stone!
One more case..around 1992....driving my family to church....I took this old country road to get there....more of a scenic drive but we liked it. Going down the road I heard repeatedly a thump. I get out of the car and like I suspected...a flat tire. I opened the trunk discovering I had taken the jack out of the car so no way to change the tire. Iphones didn't exist then to give a call so off I go to walking leaving my wife with the kids. Told them it'd probably be at least an hour before I'd be back. Down the country road I go and I walked 100 yards and I noticed up in the distance two cars were parked on the side of the road just up ahead.
It ended up being two police cars and they open up their window (having seen me coming) and asked me if I had a problem. I told them the story...flat tire....no jack. They said get in....they had one...drove me back to the car. My wife was amazed. I had only left a couple of minutes prior. One officer said to me, "No don't you try to change it. You got your nice suit on. We'll change it." And so they did. While one was doing the work the second cop said to me, "Wow someone must be watching over you! Thing you've got to understand (he told me) we're never on this road.
You see my friend is a cop in the other region a different jurisdiction. And I'm a cop in this one. We knew we were both working today so I told him why don't we meet on this old country road, the town line....then we're in both of our jurisdiction (it was the town line) and this is the first time we've done this and HERE YOU ARE....walking up a few minutes after we got here needing help!" I told them I thank God for that. What I believe is God and I could say the angels put that thought in their minds that day....go to that old country road. Even they thought there was no way it could be just a coincidence and they felt joy at being able to help someone way out in the country. Surprise, surprise there was a reason for them to be there!
We even got to church on time and when I told people there the story they praised God! Later I was kicking myself asking myself how could I have been so stupid to have taken the jack out of my car and put it in my garage weeks before (when cleaning the trunk) I felt the Lord said to me it wasn't something just I had done but he led my actions to do it. And why? He knew I was going to get a flat tire and he set up where I wouldn't have to get my clothes dirty. He decided he was going to let the government or the police to do that. "No need for you to do it!" I tell people Now don't phone 911 and ask for the Police to change their tires...BUT....God might just set it up or something similar! Just thank God daily in your prayers that you have favor with God and men.
Back to angels...don't seek them. I had one appear to me many years ago and it told me some things but that was one time in 65 years. But I've always seen what I can ascribe to be their activity always in my life. It's fine to have even a series of teachings on what they are and what they do but too much focus on them there's a danger of taking one's eyes off Christ who is the Lord and God of all such beings.
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Post by civic on Apr 27, 2023 5:23:45 GMT -8
It's interesting how much the Bible mentions about Angels appearing and promises that Angels will protect us. I've gone through various seminar teachings on the subject but one should stay balanced and not go off into an extreme of how much attention they put on it or them. One way to know if one is doing this....a longing desire and quest to ask God or long for God to allow you to see one. What's important really is to see their operation in your life not really how you'd describe their appearance. We're not as well to seek to have some type of relationship with such beings and people who get into the extremes want to know their names and give thanks to them.... all out of line to do so. We give our thanks to God alone. I believe I did see an angel once and it spoke some words to me but that was once in 65 years. I believe I have seen their activity in my life however hundreds of times in bringing protection and help my way. Few examples. Around the year of 1994. I was driving my car down the highway at a high speed. Drove home and pulled in the driveway and turned off the car and heard a clunk. I looked under the car and saw the tire rod had fallen off at one end...not connected to the wheel. It fell apart IN MY DRIVEWAY! That was divine and I believe I could say angelic protection. Many years later, around 2017....a different car......I heard a loud squeal when turning the steering wheel while driving. I was in a different town than my home....took the back road to go slow....every time I turned the wheel....a loud squeal. Finally got to my town and street....turned into my driveway parked the car and I noticed my steering was now different. I could turn the steering wheel all the way round it it didn't make a squeal. I called up my mechanic....he came to my house looked at it and asked me how I got it home. I drove it I said. He laughed and shook his head, and said, But Bob the steering column is disconnected from the steering rack, he said, it's not even connected to it. That why I could turn the steering now all the way around. In other words it fell apart after my very last turn into the driveway. Again like years ago....It fell apart in my driveway! God's protection and I think I can ascribe it to God's angels providing protection like Psalm 91 says they will. Lest you dash your foot against a stone! One more case..around 1992....driving my family to church....I took this old country road to get there....more of a scenic drive but we liked it. Going down the road I heard repeatedly a thump. I get out of the car and like I suspected...a flat tire. I opened the trunk discovering I had taken the jack out of the car so no way to change the tire. Iphones didn't exist then to give a call so off I go to walking leaving my wife with the kids. Told them it'd probably be at least an hour before I'd be back. Down the country road I go and I walked 100 yards and I noticed up in the distance two cars were parked on the side of the road just up ahead. It ended up being two police cars and they open up their window (having seen me coming) and asked me if I had a problem. I told them the story...flat tire....no jack. They said get in....they had one...drove me back to the car. My wife was amazed. I had only left a couple of minutes prior. One officer said to me, "No don't you try to change it. You got your nice suit on. We'll change it." And so they did. While one was doing the work the second cop said to me, "Wow someone must be watching over you! Thing you've got to understand (he told me) we're never on this road. You see my friend is a cop in the other region a different jurisdiction. And I'm a cop in this one. We knew we were both working today so I told him why don't we meet on this old country road, the town line....then we're in both of our jurisdiction (it was the town line) and this is the first time we've done this and HERE YOU ARE....walking up a few minutes after we got here needing help!" I told them I thank God for that. What I believe is God and I could say the angels put that thought in their minds that day....go to that old country road. Even they thought there was no way it could be just a coincidence and they felt joy at being able to help someone way out in the country. Surprise, surprise there was a reason for them to be there! We even got to church on time and when I told people there the story they praised God! Later I was kicking myself asking myself how could I have been so stupid to have taken the jack out of my car and put it in my garage weeks before (when cleaning the trunk) I felt the Lord said to me it wasn't something just I had done but he led my actions to do it. And why? He knew I was going to get a flat tire and he set up where I wouldn't have to get my clothes dirty. He decided he was going to let the government or the police to do that. "No need for you to do it!" I tell people Now don't phone 911 and ask for the Police to change their tires...BUT....God might just set it up or something similar! Just thank God daily in your prayers that you have favor with God and men. Back to angels...don't seek them. I had one appear to me many years ago and it told me some things but that was one time in 65 years. But I've always seen what I can ascribe to be their activity always in my life. It's fine to have even a series of teachings on what they are and what they do but too much focus on them there's a danger of taking one's eyes off Christ who is the Lord and God of all such beings. Thanks for sharing brother and my wife has had similar experiences but not me.  |
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Post by Bronson on Apr 27, 2023 6:54:04 GMT -8
I remember back in the 1990s you found angels everywhere — or rather you found them talked about everywhere, from major magazines and bestselling books and popular TV shows, you name it. Lots of people said they had actually seen or felt the presence of an angel. I believe it as I've had my own encounter. And especially after reading Rockson's testimony. Never in history, I suppose, had so much attention been directed at these heavenly beings.
So what’s the significance of it all? Is the Lord delighted by this burst of curiosity and belief? And does he want you and me to join in the fun — or at least to take a bit more notice of angels than we did before? Should we be looking around on earth for these heavenly beings? Should we be confident of daily care and protection from angel guardians?
Or is all this a waste of time? Maybe the angel craze of the 90s has been at best just another trivial fad, and at worst a deceptive tactic of Satan’s to divert people’s spiritual attention away from real truth. Like young children at the Grand Canyon who can’t see beyond the spoiled chipmunks darting along the rim seeking tourist handouts, if we start focusing on angels, we might miss the grand, sweeping view of God. Or worst-case scenario fall off the cliff.
On the other hand, could more attention on angels actually be God’s desire and plan for his people at this moment in history? Is it perhaps a clue and signal that we’re on the threshold of something bigger in God’s timetable for the world? Is the present age about to end? In God’s mercy and love for sinners, is he suddenly causing a belief in spiritual angels to be more respectable so people can better accept the spiritual message of the gospel — before it’s too late?
Or as some highly respected Bible teachers say, is there no such thing as angelic activity in our world anymore, since the close of Bible times? I don't think that's correct since they're in the Bible there must be a need and a reason to understand who and what they are and most importantly what they do.
The questions go on and on. I wonder if the angels are asking them too?
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Post by rockson on Apr 27, 2023 14:48:14 GMT -8
Bronson said: I remember back in the 1990s you found angels everywhere — or rather you found them talked about everywhere, from major magazines and bestselling books and popular TV shows, you name it. Rockson reply: Usually in those shows you'll hear of a great story of deliverance an angel brought....and I've shared potential ones in my last post. Wonder if those programs though put much emphasis on scriptures which say things like, Acts 11:13 " And he told us how he had seen an angel standing in his house, who said to him, ‘Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon whose surname is Peter, 14who will tell you words by which you and all your household will be saved.’ Some aren't interested in knowing how to be saved but they just want experiences. Bronson said: Lots of people said they had actually seen or felt the presence of an angel. Rockson replied: I think I'd ask them if they'd actually like to know how to bring joy to angels. They rejoice in Heaven when people get saved. I'd ask them now how about you? Would you like to cause them to rejoice? Bronson said: So what’s the significance of it all? Is the Lord delighted by this burst of curiosity and belief? And does he want you and me to join in the fun — or at least to take a bit more notice of angels than we did before? Rockson said: Sure God wants us to KNOW there's heavenly agents backing us up bringing protection and some times direction. I think that's why we see verses in 2 Kings 6:19 in which Elishia prayed his servant would see the heavenly beings in one instance. He saw the sky filled with them. We should rest assure that they're there but keep one's focus on God, that is Jesus, the Father and Holy Spirit and our mission we're mandated to accomplish. They are there though to give us support but don't make them a focus. Bronson: Should we be looking around on earth for these heavenly beings? Rockson replied: Depends on what one means by looking around for them. Bronson: Should we be confident of daily care and protection from angel guardians? Rockson: Sure scripture teaches they're there for that. I'm not sure we need to break down in categories guardian angels....some try to put forth they're all in different categories guardian angels.....warring angels....this type of angel or that....trying to break down their job descriptions as some do I think is getting I think extreme. Angels are angels and I'd just call them that. Whatever their job descriptions are is God's business and theirs. Bronson: Like young children at the Grand Canyon who can’t see beyond the spoiled chipmunks darting along the rim seeking tourist handouts, if we start focusing on angels, we might miss the grand, sweeping view of God. Or worst-case scenario fall off the cliff. Rockson: I agree. Don't lose sight on what our mandate is.
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Post by Bronson on Apr 28, 2023 15:00:47 GMT -8
Bronson said: I remember back in the 1990s you found angels everywhere — or rather you found them talked about everywhere, from major magazines and bestselling books and popular TV shows, you name it. Rockson reply: Usually in those shows you'll hear of a great story of deliverance an angel brought....and I've shared potential ones in my last post. Wonder if those programs though put much emphasis on scriptures which say things like, Acts 11:13 " And he told us how he had seen an angel standing in his house, who said to him, ‘Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon whose surname is Peter, 14who will tell you words by which you and all your household will be saved.’ Some aren't interested in knowing how to be saved but they just want experiences. Bronson said: Lots of people said they had actually seen or felt the presence of an angel. Rockson replied: I think I'd ask them if they'd actually like to know how to bring joy to angels. They rejoice in Heaven when people get saved. I'd ask them now how about you? Would you like to cause them to rejoice? Bronson said: So what’s the significance of it all? Is the Lord delighted by this burst of curiosity and belief? And does he want you and me to join in the fun — or at least to take a bit more notice of angels than we did before? Rockson said: Sure God wants us to KNOW there's heavenly agents backing us up bringing protection and some times direction. I think that's why we see verses in 2 Kings 6:19 in which Elishia prayed his servant would see the heavenly beings in one instance. He saw the sky filled with them. We should rest assure that they're there but keep one's focus on God, that is Jesus, the Father and Holy Spirit and our mission we're mandated to accomplish. They are there though to give us support but don't make them a focus. Bronson: Should we be looking around on earth for these heavenly beings? Rockson replied: Depends on what one means by looking around for them. Bronson: Should we be confident of daily care and protection from angel guardians? Rockson: Sure scripture teaches they're there for that. I'm not sure we need to break down in categories guardian angels....some try to put forth they're all in different categories guardian angels.....warring angels....this type of angel or that....trying to break down their job descriptions as some do I think is getting I think extreme. Angels are angels and I'd just call them that. Whatever their job descriptions are is God's business and theirs. Bronson: Like young children at the Grand Canyon who can’t see beyond the spoiled chipmunks darting along the rim seeking tourist handouts, if we start focusing on angels, we might miss the grand, sweeping view of God. Or worst-case scenario fall off the cliff. Rockson: I agree. Don't lose sight on what our mandate is. I believe that many times when we go through some hair raising experiences and we know that God brought us through them, that His hand was upon us, and that He uses angels to do it. I know I've had many. Just to mention one... I was driving my Harley home one night the headlight went out. I was only here a few blocks from home and figured I could make it. Wrong, a car turned left right in front of me and I plowed into the passenger door. The amazing part is I flew over the car landed about 20 ft away on my hands and knees. I immediately jumped up I'm looking around wondering what happened to that car cuz it was behind me. I had absolutely zero injuries I needed a new front wheel and a front end for the bike not to mention the frame straightened a little bit. What I really took away from that experience was I knew God's hand was upon me, I believe an Angel lifted me over that car and set me down on the road. I know God's been so good to me. Not that I deserve it but he's just that way. He save me from myself. |
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Post by Bronson on May 1, 2023 14:13:10 GMT -8
Obviously, many angels are mentioned in the OT, but one appears on various occasions and seems to be more than just one of God’s angels.
I'm talking about the, “Angel of the Lord” it seems to be as much a title or name as a description of his function or nature. I was always led to believe that the angel of the Lord is Jesus. What is significant about this angel of the Lord is that various passages refer to him as God, and yet he seems to be distinct from Yahweh. That sounds like the trinity which Jesus is part of. Genesis 16 records the story of Abraham, Sarah, and Hagar. Hagar fled from Sarah into the wilderness, and the angel of the Lord found her In the next verses the angel tells her about the son she will bear. Then, in verse 13, Hagar “called the name of the Lord who spoke to her, ‘Thou art a God who sees.’” But she was speaking to the angel of the Lord, so this passage identifies the angel as God and Yahweh.
Genesis 22 recounts Abraham’s offering of Isaac on Mount Moriah. During this incident, the angel of the Lord intervenes to stop Abraham. Abraham finds a ram and sacrifices it instead, and in verses 15–16 an angel speaks of his pleasure with Abraham’s faith. But, as he speaks (v. 16) he is called the Lord: “By Myself I have sworn, declares the Lord, because you have done this thing …” Here again we see that this is no mere angel; rather it is identified as God.
In Gen 31:11, Jacob wrestles with the angel of the Lord who then identifies himself as God. And in Judges 13:6 the angel of the Lord visits Manoah and his wife. After he departs Manoah refers to the angel and says that he and his wife will surely die, for they have seen God.
Perhaps the clearest picture of the angel of the Lord as God is found in Exodus 3:2–6, the incident of Moses and the burning bush. The angel of the Lord appears to Moses in the burning bush, and by verse 4, it is clear that this angel is God. In verse 6 he tells Moses that he is “the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” Moses hides his face, because he was afraid to look at God. Of course, he saw the angel of the Lord in the burning bush, so the identity of the angel with God is clear.
What do you think about this angel? Many argue that he is the preincarnate Christ, and it is true that after the incarnation there is no reference to the angel of the Lord. Nonetheless, for someone living during OT times it would be extremely hard to identify the angel with Christ, but the data does show us something.
Specifically, they show that an individual known as the angel of the Lord is identified as God and yet in various passages is also distinguished from God. From this I can see the doctrine of the Trinity, and the data tells me that while there is only one God, there is plurality in the Godhead, for the angel of the Lord is called God and yet is distinguished from God.
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Post by civic on May 2, 2023 4:20:13 GMT -8
Obviously, many angels are mentioned in the OT, but one appears on various occasions and seems to be more than just one of God’s angels. I'm talking about the, “Angel of the Lord” it seems to be as much a title or name as a description of his function or nature. I was always led to believe that the angel of the Lord is Jesus. What is significant about this angel of the Lord is that various passages refer to him as God, and yet he seems to be distinct from Yahweh. That sounds like the trinity which Jesus is part of. Genesis 16 records the story of Abraham, Sarah, and Hagar. Hagar fled from Sarah into the wilderness, and the angel of the Lord found her In the next verses the angel tells her about the son she will bear. Then, in verse 13, Hagar “called the name of the Lord who spoke to her, ‘Thou art a God who sees.’” But she was speaking to the angel of the Lord, so this passage identifies the angel as God and Yahweh. Genesis 22 recounts Abraham’s offering of Isaac on Mount Moriah. During this incident, the angel of the Lord intervenes to stop Abraham. Abraham finds a ram and sacrifices it instead, and in verses 15–16 an angel speaks of his pleasure with Abraham’s faith. But, as he speaks (v. 16) he is called the Lord: “By Myself I have sworn, declares the Lord, because you have done this thing …” Here again we see that this is no mere angel; rather it is identified as God. In Gen 31:11, Jacob wrestles with the angel of the Lord who then identifies himself as God. And in Judges 13:6 the angel of the Lord visits Manoah and his wife. After he departs Manoah refers to the angel and says that he and his wife will surely die, for they have seen God. Perhaps the clearest picture of the angel of the Lord as God is found in Exodus 3:2–6, the incident of Moses and the burning bush. The angel of the Lord appears to Moses in the burning bush, and by verse 4, it is clear that this angel is God. In verse 6 he tells Moses that he is “the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” Moses hides his face, because he was afraid to look at God. Of course, he saw the angel of the Lord in the burning bush, so the identity of the angel with God is clear. What do you think about this angel? Many argue that he is the preincarnate Christ, and it is true that after the incarnation there is no reference to the angel of the Lord. Nonetheless, for someone living during OT times it would be extremely hard to identify the angel with Christ, but the data does show us something. Specifically, they show that an individual known as the angel of the Lord is identified as God and yet in various passages is also distinguished from God. From this I can see the doctrine of the Trinity, and the data tells me that while there is only one God, there is plurality in the Godhead, for the angel of the Lord is called God and yet is distinguished from God. And notice since the Incarnation the "angel of the Lord " is never heard from again. A coincidence ? No the angel of the Lord was the Pre- Incarnate Lord. |
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Post by Redeemed on May 2, 2023 6:31:38 GMT -8
Is Jesus in the Old Testament? Got?All of Biblical History is about Christ, including the Old Testament. Throughout the Old Testament, we see God setting up history for the coming of Christ, not simply by speaking prophetic words, but by arranging the lives of human beings. "Typology" deals with significant historical people that have symbols or events in their lives that correspond to symbols and events in the life of Christ. Many of the most picturesque images of Jesus Christ are those that are found—sometimes seemingly buried—in the Old Testament. Jesus emphasized this point with two of His disciples as they walked and talked together on the road to Emmaus. “Beginning at Moses and all the prophets, He expounded unto them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself” Luke 24:27. |
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Post by Parker on May 4, 2023 4:26:29 GMT -8
Angels Rejoice at our salvation berean-apologetics.boards.net/post/6626The Savior has come, and He is doing what He came for, saving souls, changing hearts, drawing sinners to their salvation—all this causes the angels in heaven to rejoice because they are seeing God’s will being done, His character being revealed and praised, and many souls joining the chorus of creatures acknowledging the many goodnesses of our great God. |
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Post by Aeliana on May 16, 2023 12:38:46 GMT -8
There is no way to know how often angels have been involved in your life. One may be at your side right now, helping you learn more about Angels.
But we can’t know for sure, because angels are mostly invisible. That can seem bothersome, but Billy Graham helps us see it in perspective:
"While angels may become visible by choice, our eyes are not constructed to see them ordinarily any more than we can see the dimensions of a nuclear field, the structure of atoms, or the electricity that flows through copper wiring. Our ability to sense reality is limited: The deer of the forest far surpass our human capacity in their keenness of smell. Bats possess a phenomenally sensitive built-in radar system. Some animals can see things in the dark that escape our attention. Swallows and geese possess sophisticated guidance systems that appear to border on the supernatural. So why should we think it strange if men fail to perceive the evidences of angelic presence?"
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Post by civic on May 17, 2023 5:28:28 GMT -8
There is no way to know how often angels have been involved in your life. One may be at your side right now, helping you learn more about Angels. But we can’t know for sure, because angels are mostly invisible. That can seem bothersome, but Billy Graham helps us see it in perspective: "While angels may become visible by choice, our eyes are not constructed to see them ordinarily any more than we can see the dimensions of a nuclear field, the structure of atoms, or the electricity that flows through copper wiring. Our ability to sense reality is limited: The deer of the forest far surpass our human capacity in their keenness of smell. Bats possess a phenomenally sensitive built-in radar system. Some animals can see things in the dark that escape our attention. Swallows and geese possess sophisticated guidance systems that appear to border on the supernatural. So why should we think it strange if men fail to perceive the evidences of angelic presence?" My wife picked up 2 homeless people and took them to lunch, after lunch driving them ( both a male and female ) the male was not in the car when she dropped them off. She was convinced she had entertained an angel. Who am I to say it was not so. |
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Post by Obadiah on May 17, 2023 6:56:19 GMT -8
There is no way to know how often angels have been involved in your life. One may be at your side right now, helping you learn more about Angels. But we can’t know for sure, because angels are mostly invisible. That can seem bothersome, but Billy Graham helps us see it in perspective: "While angels may become visible by choice, our eyes are not constructed to see them ordinarily any more than we can see the dimensions of a nuclear field, the structure of atoms, or the electricity that flows through copper wiring. Our ability to sense reality is limited: The deer of the forest far surpass our human capacity in their keenness of smell. Bats possess a phenomenally sensitive built-in radar system. Some animals can see things in the dark that escape our attention. Swallows and geese possess sophisticated guidance systems that appear to border on the supernatural. So why should we think it strange if men fail to perceive the evidences of angelic presence?" My wife picked up 2 homeless people and took them to lunch, after lunch driving them ( both a male and female ) the male was not in the car when she dropped them off. She was convinced she had entertained an angel. Who am I to say it was not so. I believe she was right, That's similar to other testimonies about angels I've heard. They show up, do what they came to do And then they're gone. Leaves you standing there wondering what just happened? |
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Post by civic on May 17, 2023 8:50:33 GMT -8
My wife picked up 2 homeless people and took them to lunch, after lunch driving them ( both a male and female ) the male was not in the car when she dropped them off. She was convinced she had entertained an angel. Who am I to say it was not so. I believe she was right, That's similar to other testimonies about angels I've heard. They show up, do what they came to do And then they're gone. Leaves you standing there wondering what just happened? Yes and who am I to say otherwise since scripture implies we can entertain angels unknowingly. |
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