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Post by civic on Aug 16, 2022 12:22:16 GMT -8
Near as I can tell you dont realize that Jesus is the Lord of Hosts. Then you need to read the OP better: I asserted: This passage teaches the Lord Jesus is both man and God. Part of what I quoted: Charles Feinberg: There is no stronger statement in the OT regarding the unimpeachable deity of Israel's Messiah, the Son of God (The Wycliffe Bible Commentary, page 910). Yes He is YHWH |
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Post by rickstudies on Aug 16, 2022 12:38:14 GMT -8
Near as I can tell you dont realize that Jesus is the Lord of Hosts. Then you need to read the OP better: I asserted: This passage teaches the Lord Jesus is both man and God. Part of what I quoted: Charles Feinberg: There is no stronger statement in the OT regarding the unimpeachable deity of Israel's Messiah, the Son of God (The Wycliffe Bible Commentary, page 910). Ok, my mistake. Then you will admit that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament? |
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Post by rickstudies on Aug 16, 2022 12:43:10 GMT -8
Then you need to read the OP better: I asserted: This passage teaches the Lord Jesus is both man and God. Part of what I quoted: Charles Feinberg: There is no stronger statement in the OT regarding the unimpeachable deity of Israel's Messiah, the Son of God (The Wycliffe Bible Commentary, page 910). Yes He is YHWH I always found that assertion interesting because it makes you sound like a non-trinitarian. I just never needled you about it because I figured it would get me in trouble at CF if I did. |
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Post by civic on Aug 16, 2022 12:49:03 GMT -8
I always found that assertion interesting because it makes you sound like a non-trinitarian. I just never needled you about it because I figured it would get me in trouble at CF if I did. I’ll share some OT passages when I get off work today .  |
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Post by fred on Aug 16, 2022 12:55:23 GMT -8
Ok, my mistake. Then you will admit that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament? Yes. The Trinity always existed - always will too. |
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Post by rickstudies on Aug 16, 2022 13:30:36 GMT -8
Ok, my mistake. Then you will admit that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament? Yes. The Trinity always existed - always will too. Whos running now? Who was Adam hiding from? Who has seen the Father? |
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Post by civic on Aug 16, 2022 13:33:19 GMT -8
This is getting good , I’m looking forward to this discussion after work Stay tuned ! |
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Post by fred on Aug 16, 2022 13:55:38 GMT -8
Whos running now? Who was Adam hiding from? Who has seen the Father? Running as in in being in charge, or running as in taking off? Adam was hiding from God. Since the Father was never seen (John 6:46), but "they saw God" (Exodus 24:11) proves that God applies to more than one Person of the Trinity. |
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Post by rickstudies on Aug 16, 2022 14:31:26 GMT -8
Whos running now? Who was Adam hiding from? Who has seen the Father? Running as in in being in charge, or running as in taking off? Adam was hiding from God. Since the Father was never seen (John 6:46), but "they saw God" (Exodus 24:11) proves that God applies to more than one Person of the Trinity. And since you will not acknowledge the oneness of the Father and the Son a oneness Christian would conclude right here that you are believing in more than one God and see you about the same way you see the guy that you were telling is engaged in heresy and perversity. But the truth is that you know Jesus is the God that was seen and heard in the Old Testament days. Once you admit that though it becomes diffulcult to keep the wall up between us and them. |
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Post by fred on Aug 16, 2022 14:46:01 GMT -8
Running as in in being in charge, or running as in taking off? Adam was hiding from God. Since the Father was never seen (John 6:46), but "they saw God" (Exodus 24:11) proves that God applies to more than one Person of the Trinity. And since you will not acknowledge the oneness of the Father and the Son a oneness Christian This is what I posted 2 posts ago: The Trinity always existed - always will too. Thus, I did acknowledge the oneness of the Father and the Son. Get a clue. Furthermore, Modalists are not Christians. They may be in the confusing circles you run in, but the serious Christian knows better. |
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Post by rickstudies on Aug 16, 2022 15:17:38 GMT -8
And since you will not acknowledge the oneness of the Father and the Son a oneness Christian This is what I posted 2 posts ago: The Trinity always existed - always will too. Thus, I did acknowledge the oneness of the Father and the Son. Get a clue. Furthermore, Modalists are not Christians. They may be in the confusing circles you run in, but the serious Christian knows better. Did you see the word modalist in my remarks? Not likely since it isnt there but I`m getting bored due to the ad homiem . I run in confusing circles but you are a serious Christian. Thats a poor way to represent serious Christianity whatever that is. The Risen Christ is God in a physical form. |
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Post by fred on Aug 16, 2022 15:25:10 GMT -8
This is what I posted 2 posts ago: The Trinity always existed - always will too. Thus, I did acknowledge the oneness of the Father and the Son. Get a clue. Furthermore, Modalists are not Christians. They may be in the confusing circles you run in, but the serious Christian knows better. Did you see the word modalist in my remarks? Not likely since it isnt there but I`m getting bored due to the ad homiem . I run in confusing circles but you are a serious Christian. Thats a poor way to represent serious Christianity whatever that is. The Risen Christ is God in a physical form. Oneness are Modalists. It doesn't mean anything which word you chose or wanted to ignore. I agree with your admission that you run in confusing circles for to call these heretics Christians is totally disgusting. |
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Post by rickstudies on Aug 16, 2022 15:40:56 GMT -8
Did you see the word modalist in my remarks? Not likely since it isnt there but I`m getting bored due to the ad homiem . I run in confusing circles but you are a serious Christian. Thats a poor way to represent serious Christianity whatever that is. The Risen Christ is God in a physical form. Oneness are Modalists. It doesn't mean anything which word you chose or wanted to ignore. I agree with your admission that you run in confusing circles for to call these heretics Christians is totally disgusting. That`s out of line Fred but it makes your twisting of my words not surpeising |
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Post by fred on Aug 16, 2022 16:30:24 GMT -8
Oneness are Modalists. It doesn't mean anything which word you chose or wanted to ignore. I agree with your admission that you run in confusing circles for to call these heretics Christians is totally disgusting. That`s out of line Fred but it makes your twisting of my words not surpeising An attack on Christ by saying He is the Father is totally out of line, and then you affirm that these people are Christians makes it even worse. You need to get your priorities straight. |
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Post by rickstudies on Aug 16, 2022 16:44:39 GMT -8
That`s out of line Fred but it makes your twisting of my words not surpeising An attack on Christ by saying He is the Father is totally out of line, and then you affirm that these people are Christians makes it even worse. You need to get your priorities straight. You need to get your heart right before you propose to lecture me or anybody else. Was Isaiah a heretic? Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. |
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