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Post by e v e on Apr 7, 2023 22:15:40 GMT -8
heiser left out
we have a gorgeous feminine being...
as our mother...
and that we lost our own true original nature,
because of adams horrible crime
and that our eden body will restored at the change...
our original body He made for us
before the evil realm conquered eden
and adam went to work for them
and we were imprisoned here
in this flesh
so evil all adam did...
..but soon he will be removed
and die
our original body
God made for us
is not like the current awful fleshbody
one, at all
there is no desire God
had for us to be on this earth..
that was all adams horror caused to us
our perfect lovely
eden paradise was never on this earth
soon all Gods souls will return to paradise
and the evil ones will not be able to
take us away from Him again
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Post by e v e on Apr 7, 2023 22:18:06 GMT -8
and i barely gave details...
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Post by e v e on Apr 7, 2023 22:43:04 GMT -8
e v e e v e Michael S. Heiser Wrote This Book: Further Investigations into The Unseen Realm Sons and Daughters of God The Believer’s Identity, Calling, and Destiny Here's a short Excerpt from it. . It's pretty interesting stuff. I do believe we will eat in heaven because we're invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb. Revelation 19:6-9 God’s family didn’t begin with humans. Humans had to be grafted into it. Its beginning was divine. God Wants a Blended Family
Now, after the earth’s foundations were laid, God decided to do some other things. As we know the biblical story, God decided to create a human family on earth. That family was embodied; they were terrestrial. So we have two families that emerge in the biblical story pretty clearly, but the human family was preexisted by the divine family. Humans are going to as their destiny—at least their planned destiny—going to join this family. Heaven is going to come to earth in the form of Eden. God is going to be there. His own heavenly family, His entourage, is going to be there. Humans were created to join in with that group—sort of a blended family where humans would live among these divine beings. Because heaven has now come to earth, they are not separate domains, and that was the original intent. God, of course, is going to task humans with certain things, just like He tasks the members of His divine family with certain things. So the biblical story that emerges right from the beginning is that God is looking for a blended family—divine and human. Humans living in the divine presence was the intended norm. Of course, we know that that’s not the way the story goes, but keep in mind the idea of intended norm. Divine Family Becomes a Template
The divine family, therefore, is a precursor; it becomes a template for how we should think about how God looks at the rest of His family, which is us. So we’re going to learn about the divine sons of God in order to understand how the New Testament later talks about our own identity and our calling and our destiny. I have all of his books and followed him on Facebook for quite a while. He just recently went to be with the Lord. i didn't know he died. im sorry. i was trying to say that this planet and earth is not God's. This type of body we are in is not the one God made in eden and never his intent and all this history will go away and we will go home to eden paradise all the sons and daughters and the sons will restore eden paradise and undo everything adam did to us since eden fell which is of the fallen pantheon.... the satanic realm for only our souls none the rest of this is God's.... |
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Post by e v e on Apr 7, 2023 22:48:33 GMT -8
the entire situation of this current earth
coming to be
is the corruption
caused by adam by his hurting us
and his betraying of God
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Post by Obadiah on Apr 8, 2023 3:34:59 GMT -8
the entire situation of this current earth coming to be is the corruption caused by adam by his hurting us and his betraying of God Jesus came to fix it, that's why they call it The Good News. He told us to be a good cheer, he has overcome the world John 16:33 He conquered sin and death. And when it's our time he'll take us home. The Bible tells us to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Unless he returns In the rapture, then we're all out of here. Either way: The Apostle Paul wrote, “No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us” (Romans 8:37). |
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Post by Aeliana on Apr 8, 2023 10:23:30 GMT -8
i didn't know he died. im sorry. i was trying to say that this planet and earth is not God's. This type of body we are in is not the one God made in eden and never his intent and all this history will go away and we will go home to eden paradise all the sons and daughters and the sons will restore eden paradise and undo everything adam did to us since eden fell which is of the fallen pantheon.... the satanic realm for only our souls none the rest of this is God's.... I understand what you're saying and where you're coming from. I think it's pretty much what mainstream Christianity teaches. You just have your own unique way of expressing it. And the words you use are not what everyone is accustomed to hearing. So right away they become confused. But I get it and would love to have you explain more of your insight on Christianity and the Bible. Especially your views on heaven and God's sons and daughters. |
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Post by Aeliana on Apr 8, 2023 10:42:25 GMT -8
heiser left out we have a gorgeous feminine being... as our mother... and that we lost our own true original nature, because of adams horrible crime and that our eden body will restored at the change... our original body He made for us before the evil realm conquered eden and adam went to work for them and we were imprisoned here in this flesh so evil all adam did... ..but soon he will be removed and die our original body God made for us is not like the current awful fleshbody one, at all there is no desire God had for us to be on this earth.. that was all adams horror caused to us our perfect lovely eden paradise was never on this earth soon all Gods souls will return to paradise and the evil ones will not be able to take us away from Him again Oh I missed this one. Very interesting. Has anyone written any books on this topic besides Hessler? We could get a board going on this forum and discuss it in depth if you'd like. Or perhaps if you'd be willing to write a paper on it I'm sure the admin would put it on the blog. |
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Post by e v e on Apr 8, 2023 12:07:30 GMT -8
i didn't know he died. im sorry. i was trying to say that this planet and earth is not God's. This type of body we are in is not the one God made in eden and never his intent and all this history will go away and we will go home to eden paradise all the sons and daughters and the sons will restore eden paradise and undo everything adam did to us since eden fell which is of the fallen pantheon.... the satanic realm for only our souls none the rest of this is God's.... I understand what you're saying and where you're coming from. I think it's pretty much what mainstream Christianity teaches. You just have your own unique way of expressing it. And the words you use are not what everyone is accustomed to hearing. So right away they become confused. But I get it and would love to have you explain more of your insight on Christianity and the Bible. Especially your views on heaven and God's sons and daughters. I can't really speak of views, but I can speak about my
personal experiences when He brought me to heaven....
At the time I thought those experiences were about me... but later on, now, i can see I was wrong..
the point was that I needed to meet Him,
and leave the rest behind..
and because it was irrefutable, since I saw,
and was shown, I hold to that no matter what happens.
It was not about theology, and in fact, I did not see any theology in heaven...
Even the form of scripture, if you think about it is not theology...scripture is written in a parable form often, telling stories of events, that we can see
inside our own soul, not having to think it out
with a mind. For the soul can feel and understand what He says.
During one of the times He brought me to Him,
I was in heaven for about two hours, but it seemed to be forever... I could still sense the body here, I was still here yet
my soul was in heaven...everything was very soft and warm
and glowing, and the only feeling I know to describe it is melting love...
when you look into the eyes of the most dear loved being
... just to be with Him
I want to cry
and melt of joy at the same time
For that time I was feeling and seeing all of His reality...
And later I saw that in contrast to this prison, which is a
such a horrible step down..
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Post by e v e on Apr 8, 2023 12:16:37 GMT -8
i didn't know he died. im sorry. i was trying to say that this planet and earth is not God's. This type of body we are in is not the one God made in eden and never his intent and all this history will go away and we will go home to eden paradise all the sons and daughters and the sons will restore eden paradise and undo everything adam did to us since eden fell which is of the fallen pantheon.... the satanic realm for only our souls none the rest of this is God's.... I understand what you're saying and where you're coming from. I think it's pretty much what mainstream Christianity teaches. You just have your own unique way of expressing it. And the words you use are not what everyone is accustomed to hearing. So right away they become confused. But I get it and would love to have you explain more of your insight on Christianity and the Bible. Especially your views on heaven and God's sons and daughters. about God's sons...
there is a war in heaven... as you know... and the war is between two groups... the war has gone on for a long time since eden fell.. and is about the birthright... for the evil realm (as egypt) does not want to give up what they acquired by making eden to fall.... and have held us in captivity since then.. and have spread every confused theology possibly so that we will never meet Him or understand any of His words...
that group are esaus (on this earth), the sons of ammon (in the other reality) and of the esaus includes pharisees, experts, oftentimes leaders, who disguise to be as His souls but are not...
these are not of Him...
and the other group is jacob on this earth, who He wants to bring Home,
of whom a remnant are the sons and daughters who are the 144k soon to meet Christ on the Clouds ...
All of us His souls will be restored to our Original nature and body, which was stolen from us by adam, working for the other group
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Post by e v e on Apr 8, 2023 12:24:05 GMT -8
heiser left out we have a gorgeous feminine being... as our mother... and that we lost our own true original nature, because of adams horrible crime and that our eden body will restored at the change... our original body He made for us before the evil realm conquered eden and adam went to work for them and we were imprisoned here in this flesh so evil all adam did... ..but soon he will be removed and die our original body God made for us is not like the current awful fleshbody one, at all there is no desire God had for us to be on this earth.. that was all adams horror caused to us our perfect lovely eden paradise was never on this earth soon all Gods souls will return to paradise and the evil ones will not be able to take us away from Him again Oh I missed this one. Very interesting. Has anyone written any books on this topic besides Hessler? We could get a board going on this forum and discuss it in depth if you'd like. Or perhaps if you'd be willing to write a paper on it I'm sure the admin would put it on the blog. I'd rather not dedicate a forum about it ... in heaven we will understand ...soon...
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Post by Redeemed on Apr 8, 2023 13:06:13 GMT -8
I understand what you're saying and where you're coming from. I think it's pretty much what mainstream Christianity teaches. You just have your own unique way of expressing it. And the words you use are not what everyone is accustomed to hearing. So right away they become confused. But I get it and would love to have you explain more of your insight on Christianity and the Bible. Especially your views on heaven and God's sons and daughters. about God's sons...
there is a war in heaven... as you know... and the war is between two groups... the war has gone on for a long time since eden fell.. and is about the birthright... for the evil realm (as egypt) does not want to give up what they acquired by making eden to fall.... and have held us in captivity since then.. and have spread every confused theology possibly so that we will never meet Him or understand any of His words...
that group are esaus (on this earth), the sons of ammon (in the other reality) and of the esaus includes pharisees, experts, oftentimes leaders, who disguise to be as His souls but are not...
these are not of Him...
and the other group is jacob on this earth, who He wants to bring Home,
of whom a remnant are the sons and daughters who are the 144k soon to meet Christ on the Clouds ...
All of us His souls will be restored to our Original nature and body, which was stolen from us by adam, working for the other group
I'll Study it out and see what I can come up with. So far all I've come up with is some stuff from the Geneva Bible. |
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Post by Aeliana on Apr 8, 2023 13:28:51 GMT -8
Oh I missed this one. Very interesting. Has anyone written any books on this topic besides Hessler? We could get a board going on this forum and discuss it in depth if you'd like. Or perhaps if you'd be willing to write a paper on it I'm sure the admin would put it on the blog. I'd rather not dedicate a forum about it ... in heaven we will understand ...soon... Yes that's a really good news all of our questions will be answered in heaven. And what you provided with the link will help me get a better handle on what you believe. |
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Post by e v e on Apr 8, 2023 13:35:26 GMT -8
I'd rather not dedicate a forum about it ... in heaven we will understand ...soon... Yes that's a really good news all of our questions will be answered in heaven. And what you provided with the link will help me get a better handle on what you believe. that link I sent is really not going to be what I believe since its 3 years old.. but there might be one or two thoughts there..
most of my postings were on carm...
i faded out of there this year though
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Post by e v e on Apr 8, 2023 14:01:57 GMT -8
i think that lds tend to like Heiser because
he was open to the idea of becoming deity, or multiple deities...
but from my point of view,
we lost our deity, which is our glorified birthright/ original being and body....
and His sons and daughters will be restored our birthright...
but I think lds view the fall and all that transpired as part of God's plan..
I do not at all view it that way...
I view the fall as the demonic realm having interfered and caused us harm
and having hurt us....and adam having gone over to them and helping them
hurt us.... whereas they believe that taking mortal form, this fleshbody,
was good... and I definitely think it is bad... because for them (esau, sons of ammon) to obtain a fleshbody
they hurt us badly...and stole from us...
God will UNDO the fall soon, when we go to the Change (some call that rapture)
and are restored to our body He made and our land He created, eden paradise.
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Post by e v e on Apr 8, 2023 14:10:13 GMT -8
of course Christ made it possible for us to go Home....
and is our captain and we will meet Him on the clouds at the Change
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