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Post by Truther on Jun 27, 2023 10:48:40 GMT -8
So you think Col 2:9 should have really said this..... 9 For ALL AROUND him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead ALL AROUND HIM bodily, BUT NOT INSIDE HIM. Ick! No. That is your silly rubbish. "In" is fine. You're the one requiring "in" mean "inside". I have told you many times now that is not the proper case for the context of the statement. Contextually.... 19 To wit, that God was in(INSIDE) Christ, reconciling the world unto himself,... ....but the Father that dwelleth in(INSIDE) me, he doeth the works. 9 For in(INSIDE) him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. etc. |
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Post by Truther on Jun 27, 2023 10:51:55 GMT -8
Baptism in the name of Jesus made my conscience free from guilt. Did you believe your guilt away instead? Believe my guilt away.... Geesh....Jesus Christ personally freed me. How did he free you of guilt? A...baptism in the name of Jesus for the remission of your sins. B...believe real hard. Pick one. |
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Post by praiseyeshua on Jun 27, 2023 10:58:58 GMT -8
Manifestations are appearances. It is not about substance nor character. You really are lacking in the simplest arguments surrounding the teaching of the Trinity. When you manifest a fart, do that change who you are? God manifested himself in the flesh of His son, Jesus. He did not turn into Jesus. Incarnationism is trippy. That is your claim. Nothing more. |
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Post by praiseyeshua on Jun 27, 2023 11:20:17 GMT -8
Believe my guilt away.... Geesh....Jesus Christ personally freed me. How did he free you of guilt? A...baptism in the name of Jesus for the remission of your sins. B...believe real hard. Pick one. False dilemma. There are other choices. C... Jesus Christ freed me personally. Many people believe. There are varying degrees of belief. |
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Post by Hosanna on Jun 27, 2023 12:44:03 GMT -8
Let me introduce you to the Nontrinitarian god. You might want to lower your voice a little before we go in. He might be sleeping now. He’s old, you know, and doesn’t much understand or like this “newfangled” modern world. His golden days—the ones he talks about when you really get him going—were a long time ago, before most of us were even born. That was back when people cared what he thought about things and considered him pretty important to their lives.
Of course, all that’s changed now, though, and god—poor fellow—just never adjusted very well. Life’s moved on and passed him by. Now, he spends most of his time just hanging in the garden out back. Nontrinitarian go there sometimes to see him, and there they tarry, walking and talking softly and tenderly among the roses.…
Anyway, a lot of people still like him, it seems—or at least he manages to keep his poll numbers pretty high. And Jesus and The Holy Spirit even drop by to visit every once in a while. But of course, that’s alright with him as he is really not self-conscious of them or who they are. They just show up.
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Post by Truther on Jun 28, 2023 4:53:40 GMT -8
How did he free you of guilt? A...baptism in the name of Jesus for the remission of your sins. B...believe real hard. Pick one. False dilemma. There are other choices. C... Jesus Christ freed me personally. Many people believe. There are varying degrees of belief. So, when the 3000 asked Peter "what shall we do", you don't think you are included in Peter's answer per Acts 2:38. You got a personal answer from someone else that is different than Peter's answer? What makes you different than the 3000 at Pentecost? |
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Post by Truther on Jun 28, 2023 4:55:14 GMT -8
Let me introduce you to the Nontrinitarian god. You might want to lower your voice a little before we go in. He might be sleeping now. He’s old, you know, and doesn’t much understand or like this “newfangled” modern world. His golden days—the ones he talks about when you really get him going—were a long time ago, before most of us were even born. That was back when people cared what he thought about things and considered him pretty important to their lives. Of course, all that’s changed now, though, and god—poor fellow—just never adjusted very well. Life’s moved on and passed him by. Now, he spends most of his time just hanging in the garden out back. Nontrinitarian go there sometimes to see him, and there they tarry, walking and talking softly and tenderly among the roses.… Anyway, a lot of people still like him, it seems—or at least he manages to keep his poll numbers pretty high. And Jesus and The Holy Spirit even drop by to visit every once in a while. But of course, that’s alright with him as he is really not self-conscious of them or who they are. They just show up. The Roman Catholic Church invented the trinity doctrine. |
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Post by Redeemed on Jun 28, 2023 4:58:04 GMT -8
Fully God, Fully Man
All the gospel writers begin their accounts of Jesus’ life by showing that he was no ordinary man. Matthew and Luke tell the story of an angel coming to a young virgin named Mary and telling her that she would be with child. Incredulous at the news, Mary asks, “How will this be, since I am a virgin?” The angel explains, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy—the Son of God” (Luke 1:34–35). John begins his story with an even more astonishing statement: “In the beginning” (words that point back strongly to Gen. 1:1) “was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.… The Word became flesh and dwelt among us” (John 1:1, 14).
All of this—Jesus’ birth to a virgin, the title “Son of God,” John’s assertion that “the Word was God” together with his announcement that “the Word became flesh”—is meant to teach us who Jesus is.
Put simply, the Bible tells us that Jesus is both completely human and completely God. This is a crucial point to understand about him, for it is only the fully human, fully divine Son of God who can save us. If Jesus were just another man—like us in every respect, including our fallenness and sin—he would no more be able to save us than one dead man can save another. But because he is the Son of God, without sin and equal in every divine perfection to God the Father, he is able to defeat death and save us from our sin. In the same way, it is also critical that Jesus be truly one of us—that is, fully human—so that he can rightly represent us before his Father. As Hebrews 4:15 explains, Jesus is able “to sympathize with our weaknesses” because he “in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.”
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Post by praiseyeshua on Jun 28, 2023 7:14:30 GMT -8
False dilemma. There are other choices. C... Jesus Christ freed me personally. Many people believe. There are varying degrees of belief. So, when the 3000 asked Peter "what shall we do", you don't think you are included in Peter's answer per Acts 2:38. You got a personal answer from someone else that is different than Peter's answer? What makes you different than the 3000 at Pentecost? Why should I be? I told you already. I didn't reject the baptism of John. They had denied the personally earthly ministry of John THE Baptist and Jesus Christ Himself. They denied the miracles they saw. They had to confess and accept what they knew to be true. Repentance was different for me. I had my own personal sins to deal with. Repentances is granted. Every individual must meet God's criteria personally, then God will GRANT THEM repentance. What makes you the same as the 3000 at Pentecost? |
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Post by praiseyeshua on Jun 28, 2023 7:15:31 GMT -8
Let me introduce you to the Nontrinitarian god. You might want to lower your voice a little before we go in. He might be sleeping now. He’s old, you know, and doesn’t much understand or like this “newfangled” modern world. His golden days—the ones he talks about when you really get him going—were a long time ago, before most of us were even born. That was back when people cared what he thought about things and considered him pretty important to their lives. Of course, all that’s changed now, though, and god—poor fellow—just never adjusted very well. Life’s moved on and passed him by. Now, he spends most of his time just hanging in the garden out back. Nontrinitarian go there sometimes to see him, and there they tarry, walking and talking softly and tenderly among the roses.… Anyway, a lot of people still like him, it seems—or at least he manages to keep his poll numbers pretty high. And Jesus and The Holy Spirit even drop by to visit every once in a while. But of course, that’s alright with him as he is really not self-conscious of them or who they are. They just show up. The Roman Catholic Church invented the trinity doctrine. Utter rubbish. I believe the Trinity because the Scriptures declare it. Are you a Father? |
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Post by Hosanna on Jun 28, 2023 10:07:55 GMT -8
Let me introduce you to the Nontrinitarian god. You might want to lower your voice a little before we go in. He might be sleeping now. He’s old, you know, and doesn’t much understand or like this “newfangled” modern world. His golden days—the ones he talks about when you really get him going—were a long time ago, before most of us were even born. That was back when people cared what he thought about things and considered him pretty important to their lives. Of course, all that’s changed now, though, and god—poor fellow—just never adjusted very well. Life’s moved on and passed him by. Now, he spends most of his time just hanging in the garden out back. Nontrinitarian go there sometimes to see him, and there they tarry, walking and talking softly and tenderly among the roses.… Anyway, a lot of people still like him, it seems—or at least he manages to keep his poll numbers pretty high. And Jesus and The Holy Spirit even drop by to visit every once in a while. But of course, that’s alright with him as he is really not self-conscious of them or who they are. They just show up. The Roman Catholic Church invented the trinity doctrine. The Wright brothers invented the 1st airplane. |
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Post by Truther on Jun 28, 2023 13:02:50 GMT -8
So, when the 3000 asked Peter "what shall we do", you don't think you are included in Peter's answer per Acts 2:38. You got a personal answer from someone else that is different than Peter's answer? What makes you different than the 3000 at Pentecost? Why should I be? I told you already. I didn't reject the baptism of John. They had denied the personally earthly ministry of John THE Baptist and Jesus Christ Himself. They denied the miracles they saw. They had to confess and accept what they knew to be true. Repentance was different for me. I had my own personal sins to deal with. Repentances is granted. Every individual must meet God's criteria personally, then God will GRANT THEM repentance. What makes you the same as the 3000 at Pentecost? Obviously you reject Peter and the 3000 regarding Acts 2:38. This means you have some newfalngled way to get your sins remitted. I am the same as the 3000 by repenting, being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and receiving the Holy Ghost exactly like they did. You repented, then rejected Jesus name baptism for the remission of sin, then you repented, repented and repented and believed, believed and believed your sins were remitted without Jesus name invoked over you in baptism. That would drive me bonkers in that circumstance. |
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Post by Truther on Jun 28, 2023 13:04:49 GMT -8
Fully God, Fully Man All the gospel writers begin their accounts of Jesus’ life by showing that he was no ordinary man. Matthew and Luke tell the story of an angel coming to a young virgin named Mary and telling her that she would be with child. Incredulous at the news, Mary asks, “How will this be, since I am a virgin?” The angel explains, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy—the Son of God” (Luke 1:34–35). John begins his story with an even more astonishing statement: “In the beginning” (words that point back strongly to Gen. 1:1) “was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.… The Word became flesh and dwelt among us” (John 1:1, 14). All of this—Jesus’ birth to a virgin, the title “Son of God,” John’s assertion that “the Word was God” together with his announcement that “the Word became flesh”—is meant to teach us who Jesus is. Put simply, the Bible tells us that Jesus is both completely human and completely God. This is a crucial point to understand about him, for it is only the fully human, fully divine Son of God who can save us. If Jesus were just another man—like us in every respect, including our fallenness and sin—he would no more be able to save us than one dead man can save another. But because he is the Son of God, without sin and equal in every divine perfection to God the Father, he is able to defeat death and save us from our sin. In the same way, it is also critical that Jesus be truly one of us—that is, fully human—so that he can rightly represent us before his Father. As Hebrews 4:15 explains, Jesus is able “to sympathize with our weaknesses” because he “in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.” Was God a microscopic cell at his fleshly origin or... was God inside Jesus, making Jesus "God with us"? |
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Post by Truther on Jun 28, 2023 13:06:38 GMT -8
The Roman Catholic Church invented the trinity doctrine. Utter rubbish. I believe the Trinity because the Scriptures declare it. Are you a Father? The trinitarian is the daughter of the rCC. They perpetuated trinitarianism. Origins matter. Yes, I am a father. Your trin father is the Pope of Rome. |
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Post by Truther on Jun 28, 2023 13:08:19 GMT -8
The Roman Catholic Church invented the trinity doctrine. The Wright brothers invented the 1st airplane. Are you admitting the trinity was invented by comparison? |
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