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Post by Truther on Jun 23, 2023 4:54:42 GMT -8
Again, please explain to me if you agree with Jesus saying from heaven(or don't agree), that he has a God, 4 times in a single verse. If you cannot explain this, then your belief system is contary to the Apostles. It came from elsewhere. Jesus is forever both God and man so as a man He has the Father as His God. This in no way makes Him not God. There are many passages where the Father calls Him God and the Apostles and Prophets call Him God. I agree that Jesus is God, but you are missing the scriptural basis for that. The scriptural basis is God inside Jesus. You guys cannot accept this fact. That is why you will not further explain how Jesus, from heaven, says he has A GOD 4 times in a single verse. You simply talk past it because it baffles you. The trouble in the back of your mind should make you want to explain it rather than just ignore it. |
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Post by Truther on Jun 23, 2023 4:57:38 GMT -8
You skipped Acts 2:38 and went straight to a letter to the saints that previously obeyed Acts 2:38. A passage that was designated by Paul to edify them in the faith. You take sinners to Romans 10 for salvation, skipping Acts in the process. You are an official Acts skipper, desperately needing this quick lesson... no i have not skipped any thing ...i just dont need a you tube video to speak for me have you skipped the great commission Matthew 28:16-20 New King James Version The Great Commission 16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had appointed for them. 17 When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.
New King James Version
The Great Commission
16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had appointed for them. 17 When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted.
18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. which came fist Jesus or the book of acts. why is it you skipped our discussion about justification your ignoring the point saved by grace through faith not of works lest any man boast. baptism is a work that follows salvation... BUT if you insist in cherry picking scriptures be my guest ....  This is how Acts 2:38 validates Matt 28:19..... |
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Post by forgiven on Jun 23, 2023 5:00:29 GMT -8
Jesus is forever both God and man so as a man He has the Father as His God. This in no way makes Him not God. There are many passages where the Father calls Him God and the Apostles and Prophets call Him God. I agree that Jesus is God, but you are missing the scriptural basis for that. The scriptural basis is God inside Jesus. You guys cannot accept this fact. That is why you will not further explain how Jesus, from heaven, says he has A GOD 4 times in a single verse. You simply talk past it because it baffles you. The trouble in the back of your mind should make you want to explain it rather than just ignore it. yet you refuse to say anything on being justified i have given you 2 old testament scriptures with the word us,. when God is speaking if he is % 100 singular one .why was the words US USED >? |
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Post by Truther on Jun 23, 2023 5:01:23 GMT -8
You skipped Acts 2:38 and went straight to a letter to the saints that previously obeyed Acts 2:38. A passage that was designated by Paul to edify them in the faith. You take sinners to Romans 10 for salvation, skipping Acts in the process. You are an official Acts skipper, desperately needing this quick lesson... no i have not skipped any thing ...i just dont need a you tube video to speak for me have you skipped the great commission Matthew 28:16-20 New King James Version The Great Commission 16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had appointed for them. 17 When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.
New King James Version
The Great Commission
16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had appointed for them. 17 When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted.
18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. which came fist Jesus or the book of acts. why is it you skipped our discussion about justification your ignoring the point saved by grace through faith not of works lest any man boast. baptism is a work that follows salvation... BUT if you insist in cherry picking scriptures be my guest .... The blood is obtained by obeying Acts 2:38 by faith, not by believing it into existence. The devils have faith and it even causes them to tremble, but they cannot obey Acts 2:38. No different than humans that skip Acts "by faith". |
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Post by Truther on Jun 23, 2023 5:04:40 GMT -8
I agree that Jesus is God, but you are missing the scriptural basis for that. The scriptural basis is God inside Jesus. You guys cannot accept this fact. That is why you will not further explain how Jesus, from heaven, says he has A GOD 4 times in a single verse. You simply talk past it because it baffles you. The trouble in the back of your mind should make you want to explain it rather than just ignore it. yet you refuse to say anything on being justified i have given you 2 old testament scriptures with the word us,. when God is speaking if he is % 100 singular one .why was the words US USED >? Excellent question. The "US" in the OT is ....the man Christ Jesus, whom was slain from the foundation of the world. God personally knew His human son before the world was made and made everything by, for and through him. God is not bound by time. God is smart. |
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Post by forgiven on Jun 23, 2023 5:06:37 GMT -8
no i have not skipped any thing ...i just dont need a you tube video to speak for me have you skipped the great commission Matthew 28:16-20 New King James Version The Great Commission 16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had appointed for them. 17 When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.
New King James Version
The Great Commission
16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had appointed for them. 17 When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted.
18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. which came fist Jesus or the book of acts. why is it you skipped our discussion about justification your ignoring the point saved by grace through faith not of works lest any man boast. baptism is a work that follows salvation... BUT if you insist in cherry picking scriptures be my guest .... The blood is obtained by obeying Acts 2:38 by faith, not by believing it into existence. The devils have faith and it even causes them to tremble, but they cannot obey Acts 2:38. No different than humans that skip Acts "by faith". do what thats not Bible do you know anything besides acts 2:38 lets not forget the 16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had appointed for them. 17 When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. which came fist Jesus or thebook of acts? |
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Post by Truther on Jun 23, 2023 5:09:27 GMT -8
The word "US"...
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, ...
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
Adam was made in the figure of the man Christ Jesus, who is the express image of God.
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Post by Truther on Jun 23, 2023 5:11:59 GMT -8
The blood is obtained by obeying Acts 2:38 by faith, not by believing it into existence. The devils have faith and it even causes them to tremble, but they cannot obey Acts 2:38. No different than humans that skip Acts "by faith". do what thats not Bible do you know anything besides acts 2:38 lets not forget the 16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had appointed for them. 17 When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. which came fist Jesus or thebook of acts? What is the name of the son? A...son. B....George. C....Jesus. Pick one. |
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Post by forgiven on Jun 23, 2023 5:18:20 GMT -8
yet you refuse to say anything on being justified i have given you 2 old testament scriptures with the word us,. when God is speaking if he is % 100 singular one .why was the words US USED >? Excellent question. The "US" in the OT is ....the man Christ Jesus, whom was slain from the foundation of the world. God personally knew His human son before the world was made and made everything by, for and through him. God is not bound by time. God is smart. lol you have more answers than carter has peanuts the US is reference to the trinity Father Son HOLYGHOST each one has a separate task yet all 3 work together When Jesus was baptized ( not for salvation ) the heavenly FATHER spoke , this is MY SON in whom i am well pleased HEAR YE HIM. see there 2 for the third one Jesus said its better i leave i will send the comforter, the spirit of truth this makes 3 compare it to the egg 3 parts egg shell egg white and the yoke, 3 in one .. Look i have took time out and addressed your semi posted scripture . lets see you post on justification which takes place the moment were saved..... NOT BAPTIZED |
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Post by civic on Jun 23, 2023 5:29:03 GMT -8
Jesus is forever both God and man so as a man He has the Father as His God. This in no way makes Him not God. There are many passages where the Father calls Him God and the Apostles and Prophets call Him God. I agree that Jesus is God, but you are missing the scriptural basis for that. The scriptural basis is God inside Jesus. You guys cannot accept this fact. That is why you will not further explain how Jesus, from heaven, says he has A GOD 4 times in a single verse. You simply talk past it because it baffles you. The trouble in the back of your mind should make you want to explain it rather than just ignore it. The Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father , yet They are both God. Just the same as the Holy Spirit is God yet He is not the Father or the Son.
hope this helps !!!
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Post by praiseyeshua on Jun 23, 2023 6:16:35 GMT -8
Jesus is forever both God and man so as a man He has the Father as His God. This in no way makes Him not God. There are many passages where the Father calls Him God and the Apostles and Prophets call Him God. I agree that Jesus is God, but you are missing the scriptural basis for that. The scriptural basis is God inside Jesus. You guys cannot accept this fact. That is why you will not further explain how Jesus, from heaven, says he has A GOD 4 times in a single verse. You simply talk past it because it baffles you. The trouble in the back of your mind should make you want to explain it rather than just ignore it. Inside? 100 percent man. 100 percent God. What is this "inside" stuff you're claiming? Christ is NOT DIVIDED. There were two seeds. The seed of Mary and the Eternal Seed of God. The Incarnation wasn't a separation. It was a JOINING. Perfection without division. |
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Post by praiseyeshua on Jun 23, 2023 6:27:11 GMT -8
yet you refuse to say anything on being justified i have given you 2 old testament scriptures with the word us,. when God is speaking if he is % 100 singular one .why was the words US USED >? Excellent question. The "US" in the OT is ....the man Christ Jesus, whom was slain from the foundation of the world. God personally knew His human son before the world was made and made everything by, for and through him. God is not bound by time. God is smart. God IS time. It is part of His Eternal Character. There is no absence of time...... That is nothing more than senseless unproven science. It doesn't come from the Scriptures. Time is a endless measure. If you say time is finite, then you've quantified the Eternal God. Eternity is the absence of time, it is the endless NEVERENDING... time. Tell me, did God die in Jesus Christ "on time" or not? |
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Post by Truther on Jun 24, 2023 13:58:55 GMT -8
Excellent question. The "US" in the OT is ....the man Christ Jesus, whom was slain from the foundation of the world. God personally knew His human son before the world was made and made everything by, for and through him. God is not bound by time. God is smart. lol you have more answers than carter has peanuts the US is reference to the trinity Father Son HOLYGHOST each one has a separate task yet all 3 work together When Jesus was baptized ( not for salvation ) the heavenly FATHER spoke , this is MY SON in whom i am well pleased HEAR YE HIM. see there 2 for the third one Jesus said its better i leave i will send the comforter, the spirit of truth this makes 3 compare it to the egg 3 parts egg shell egg white and the yoke, 3 in one .. Look i have took time out and addressed your semi posted scripture . lets see you post on justification which takes place the moment were saved..... NOT BAPTIZED How is made made in the image of an omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent Spirit God if he is not made in the image of the man , Christ Jesus? Please explain. Thanks |
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Post by Truther on Jun 24, 2023 14:00:57 GMT -8
I agree that Jesus is God, but you are missing the scriptural basis for that. The scriptural basis is God inside Jesus. You guys cannot accept this fact. That is why you will not further explain how Jesus, from heaven, says he has A GOD 4 times in a single verse. You simply talk past it because it baffles you. The trouble in the back of your mind should make you want to explain it rather than just ignore it. The Father(1 deity) is not the Son(1 deity) and the Son is not the Father , yet They(2 deities) are both God. Just the same as the Holy Spirit is God yet He is not the Father or the Son.
hope this helps !!!
That = 2 deities. |
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Post by forgiven on Jun 24, 2023 14:03:02 GMT -8
lol you have more answers than carter has peanuts the US is reference to the trinity Father Son HOLYGHOST each one has a separate task yet all 3 work together When Jesus was baptized ( not for salvation ) the heavenly FATHER spoke , this is MY SON in whom i am well pleased HEAR YE HIM. see there 2 for the third one Jesus said its better i leave i will send the comforter, the spirit of truth this makes 3 compare it to the egg 3 parts egg shell egg white and the yoke, 3 in one .. Look i have took time out and addressed your semi posted scripture . lets see you post on justification which takes place the moment were saved..... NOT BAPTIZED How is made made in the image of an omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent Spirit God if he is not made in the image of the man , Christ Jesus? Please explain. Thanks sorry you wouldn't understand it... besides this has nothing to do with work based baptism salvation. |
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