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Post by civic on Jun 4, 2023 8:42:02 GMT -8
Why would Jesus command believers to be baptized in the NAME ( singular ) of the 3 Persons- the Father , the Son and the Holy Spirit ? Matthew 28:19-20 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” And why would He say I will always be with you and not God, not the Father and not the Holy Spirit above ? And why would He tell them to obey everything He commands and not God and not the Fathers commands ? hope this helps !!! This explains it all... who is speaking in the video ? |
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Post by Redeemed on Jun 4, 2023 14:33:37 GMT -8
John 4:24 reads “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” We know worshipping God in truth would mean worshipping God according to his word, because John 17:17 says “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.” God’s word defines for us what the truth is. But what does it mean to worship God “in Spirit”? From the verse starting off with “God is a Spirit,” we know it must have something to do with worshipping God with our spirit. But the following three verses might shed some more light on just what it means … Josh 24:14 Now therefore fear the Lord, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the Lord. I Sam 12:24 Only fear the Lord, and serve him in truth with all your heart: for consider how great things he hath done for you. II Chron 25:2 And he did that which was right in the sight of the Lord, but not with a perfect heart. The Father is inside the son, thus, when you see the son you see the Father. Yes, that would be The Holy Trinity. God in three persons. The Bible speaks of the Father as God (Phil. 1:2), Jesus as God (Titus 2:13), and the Holy Spirit as God (Acts 5:3-4). The fact that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons means, in other words, that the Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is not the Father. Jesus is God, but He is not the Father or the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is God, but He is not the Son or the Father. They are different Persons, not three different ways of looking at God. |
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Post by Truther on Jun 5, 2023 5:48:02 GMT -8
The Father is inside the son, thus, when you see the son you see the Father. Yes, that would be The Holy Trinity. God in three persons. The Bible speaks of the Father as God (Phil. 1:2), Jesus as God (Titus 2:13), and the Holy Spirit as God (Acts 5:3-4). The fact that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons means, in other words, that the Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is not the Father. Jesus is God, but He is not the Father or the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is God, but He is not the Son or the Father. They are different Persons, not three different ways of looking at God. 1+1+1=3(not 1). 3 deities. 3 God's. |
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Post by Parker on Jun 5, 2023 9:26:58 GMT -8
God is not a 1st. grade math equation. He is quite a bit more complex than ABC...123 “God Is a Trinity.” We’ve arrive here of necessity, by force of logic, the logic of faith.
Again, given the fact that both the Scriptures and the church assume that salvation is provided by God alone as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, it is clear that all three must equally be this God; all three together must be a trinity as all three work together in our salvation.
Only God can save. There are no exceptions to this rule, for any assumption of a Savior besides God is idolatrous—plain and simple. Since only the one God can save, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit save in loving interaction, the one God must be a loving interaction of Father, Son, and Spirit. This is how we’ve arrive at this most Holy Doctrine by the fact that “God Is a Trinity.”
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Post by Truther on Jun 6, 2023 4:53:06 GMT -8
God is not a 1st. grade math equation. He is quite a bit more complex than ABC...123 “God Is a Trinity.” We’ve arrive here of necessity, by force of logic, the logic of faith. Again, given the fact that both the Scriptures and the church assume that salvation is provided by God alone as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, it is clear that all three must equally be this God; all three together must be a trinity as all three work together in our salvation. Only God can save. There are no exceptions to this rule, for any assumption of a Savior besides God is idolatrous—plain and simple. Since only the one God can save, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit save in loving interaction, the one God must be a loving interaction of Father, Son, and Spirit. This is how we’ve arrive at this most Holy Doctrine by the fact that “God Is a Trinity.” God is a Spirit per John 4:24 as described by Jesus himself. God is not a trinity as described by the RCC. The RCC extracted God from inside Jesus and put them alongside each other. Very clever. |
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Post by Theophilus on Jun 6, 2023 8:27:18 GMT -8
We saw earlier in this thread that each Person of the Trinity is fully God. The three Persons of the Trinity are not each one-third of God, but are each all of God. Thus, Jesus is fully God since he is God the Son incarnate. Which means that everything that is essential to being God is true of Jesus. Jesus is not part of God or one-third of God. Rather, he is fully God. “For in him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form” Colossians 2:9
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Post by Truther on Jun 6, 2023 13:42:06 GMT -8
We saw earlier in this thread that each Person of the Trinity is fully God. The three Persons of the Trinity are not each one-third of God, but are each all of God. Thus, Jesus is fully God since he is God the Son incarnate. Which means that everything that is essential to being God is true of Jesus. Jesus is not part of God or one-third of God. Rather, he is fully God. “For in him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form” Colossians 2:9 Your biased, modern version says the exact opposite of this... 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Your modern version says "God dwells in bodily form". My version says God dwells in Jesus' body. Contradicting versions. |
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Post by Truther on Jun 6, 2023 13:43:09 GMT -8
Does Jesus have a God while in heaven right now?...
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
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