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Post by civic on Sept 7, 2022 7:44:21 GMT -8
I'm sure there is nothing to compare His Majesty, Glory and Beauty. But one day we will see Him like He is declares the Apostle John in 1 John 3:2. And this is coming from someone who personally saw Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration in His Glory. |
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Post by e v e on Sept 9, 2022 13:27:07 GMT -8
We will be restored to our original body
lost at the fall…
what’s called resurrection body
but was our original
and restored to His creation
we will be with Him and see Him,
and see All His sons and daughters,
and see His spirit.
Our actual gorgeous family.
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Post by Parker on Sept 9, 2022 15:51:13 GMT -8
We will be restored to our original body lost at the fall… what’s called resurrection body but was our original and restored to His creation we will be with Him and see Him, and see All His sons and daughters, and see His spirit. Our actual gorgeous family. In Philippians 3:21 we read: “[Jesus] shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.” Additionally, in I John 3:2 we read: “Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.” These verses tell us that those of us who die, having trusted Christ as our personal Savior, will be given bodies like that of the Lord Jesus Christ. It will be a body that is not subject to disease and death any longer. It will be in all points perfect as the Lord Jesus Christ’s body is also perfect. We further know from II Corinthians 5:8 that a Christian, immediately upon his death, goes into the presence of the Lord. |
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Post by e v e on Sept 9, 2022 16:01:26 GMT -8
God talks to us in types…
archetypes
not the greek logic
the greek form of either or logic
mutilates every topic
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Post by e v e on Sept 9, 2022 16:02:09 GMT -8
We will be restored to our original body lost at the fall… what’s called resurrection body but was our original and restored to His creation we will be with Him and see Him, and see All His sons and daughters, and see His spirit. Our actual gorgeous family. In Philippians 3:21 we read: “[Jesus] shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.” Additionally, in I John 3:2 we read: “Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.” These verses tell us that those of us who die, having trusted Christ as our personal Savior, will be given bodies like that of the Lord Jesus Christ. It will be a body that is not subject to disease and death any longer. It will be in all points perfect as the Lord Jesus Christ’s body is also perfect. We further know from II Corinthians 5:8 that a Christian, immediately upon his death, goes into the presence of the Lord. the Change Paul tells us of is very soon when His 144k will receive their original body :) |
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Post by e v e on Sept 9, 2022 17:00:47 GMT -8
most no one believes this body is horrible :(
that not God would make anything so ugly
..I trust Him He will get us out of here and bring us Home to our eden
and all the little ones be safe soon
and no more pain
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Post by genez on Sept 11, 2022 18:36:45 GMT -8
The Father is God.
The Son is God.
The Holy Spirit is God.
What makes the Son different from the Father?
The Son is the same God essence as the Father and a soul in unique union.
What makes the Holy Spirit different from the Father?
The Holy Spirit is the same God as the Father in union with the spirit essence of an angel.
Jesus utilizing His Soul takes what He fully knows of being also God, and interprets for us God as expressed by His Soul.
Since we are souls? We can relate to how Jesus interprets the Father for us.
That is why Jesus could say, "to see me is to see the Father."
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Post by civic on Sept 15, 2022 6:02:02 GMT -8
The Father is God.
The Son is God.
The Holy Spirit is God.
What makes the Son different from the Father?
The Son is the same God essence as the Father and a soul in unique union.
What makes the Holy Spirit different from the Father?
The Holy Spirit is the same God as the Father in union with the spirit essence of an angel.
Jesus utilizing His Soul takes what He fully knows of being also God, and interprets for us God as expressed by His Soul.
Since we are souls? We can relate to how Jesus interprets the Father for us.
That is why Jesus could say, "to see me is to see the Father." Where in scripture do you find the Holy Spirit is the same essence/nature as angels ? |
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Post by civic on Mar 21, 2023 5:22:34 GMT -8
You are spot on brother . Our Triune God works together in perfect harmony and share all of the same attributes as the One God who is Immutable. Amen ! Elohim though a plurality is just one Spirit and all others are joined to that Spirit so how can Elohim be three persons? God bless you.  So God in your theology is One person who manifests himself in 3 different modes correct ? |
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Post by civic on Mar 21, 2023 5:23:57 GMT -8
The Father is God.
The Son is God.
The Holy Spirit is God.
What makes the Son different from the Father?
The Son is the same God essence as the Father and a soul in unique union.
What makes the Holy Spirit different from the Father?
The Holy Spirit is the same God as the Father in union with the spirit essence of an angel.
Jesus utilizing His Soul takes what He fully knows of being also God, and interprets for us God as expressed by His Soul.
Since we are souls? We can relate to how Jesus interprets the Father for us.
That is why Jesus could say, "to see me is to see the Father." Gene can you point me to this in the Bible? You said the following:
"The Holy Spirit is the same God as the Father in union with the spirit essence of an angel." |
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Post by civic on Mar 21, 2023 5:26:08 GMT -8
Would you consider your view leaning more on the oneness or modalist side with God as Father, Son and Holy Spirit ?
Thanks Bob.
I think God is one person. He came to earth as Jesus to teach, set an example, and die for our sins. He is the Holy Spirit when we talk with him. So you would reject the teaching of the Trinity correct ? Would you still consider Trinitarians your brothers in Christ ? Thanks |
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Post by civic on Mar 21, 2023 5:27:55 GMT -8
God is a Trinity of persons: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father is not the same person as the Son; the Son is not the same person as the Holy Spirit; and the Holy Spirit is not the same person as Father. They are not three gods and not three beings. They are three distinct persons; yet, they are all the one God. Each has a will, can speak, can love, etc., and these are demonstrations of person-hood. They are in absolute perfect harmony consisting of one substance. They are co-eternal, co-equal and co-powerful. If any one of the three were removed, there would be no God. Jesus, the Son, is one person with two natures: Divine and Human. This is called the Hypostatic Union. The Holy Spirit is also divine in nature and is self-aware, the third person of the Trinity. The word "person" is used to describe the three "Persons" of the Godhead because the word "person" is appropriate. A person is self-aware, can speak, love, hate, say "you," "yours," "me," "mine," etc. The three Persons in the Trinity demonstrate these qualities. What is so hard to understand about God being Triune? The Father is not the Son. The Son is not the Holy Spirit; and the Holy Spirit is not the Father. God is a Trinity (Tri-Unity) of 3 Persons who are the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Trinity is not three gods nor is the Trinity three beings. We call them "Persons" because each one of Them have a will, speak, teach, love, receive praise, prayer, share the same Glory, etc. These are all characteristics of person-hood. They are of one substance, nature, essence or Being. You cannot have the Father without the Son, the Son without the Father, The Son without the Holy Spirit or you would not have the God according to Scripture, you would have a false god or what is known as an idol. hope this helps, Addressing the OP on this one point for now. "God is a Trinity of persons". we must disagree with that statement, and here's why. Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. God is a plurality here in the verse. but is it of PERSONS? no, because Isaiah 44:24 clearly states, "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"
How can God as three person who supposed to be Omni-present be alone, and by himself?
PICJAG, 101G101G where have you been my friend ? |
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Post by civic on Mar 21, 2023 5:29:09 GMT -8
The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are indeed Beautiful. I cannot wait until I'm Resurrected and to be in Their presence. Amen. |
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Post by e v e on Mar 21, 2023 22:10:10 GMT -8
The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are indeed Beautiful. I cannot wait until I'm Resurrected and to be in Their presence. Amen. me too ❤️ |
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Post by civic on Mar 22, 2023 4:22:20 GMT -8
The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are indeed Beautiful. I cannot wait until I'm Resurrected and to be in Their presence. Amen. me too ❤️ Amen sister |
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