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Post by Obadiah on May 8, 2023 11:37:36 GMT -8
mark and josh and a few others are Calvinists and several of us here were at one time. Were at one time? Lol. sorry don't mean to laugh. Almost sounds like something to avoid? Like the plague! It's always better to preach the Bible instead of Calvinism because the Bible’s words are God-breathed, not some theological formulations. Paul tells us “all Scripture is breathed out by God” Every Scripture is God-breathed (given by His inspiration) and profitable for instruction, for reproof and conviction of sin, for correction of error and discipline in obedience, [and] for training in righteousness (in holy living, in conformity to God’s will in thought, purpose, and action), 17 So that the man of God may be complete and proficient, well fitted and thoroughly equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:16–17 For no prophecy ever originated because some man willed it [to do so—it never came by human impulse], but men spoke from God who were borne along (moved and impelled) by the Holy Spirit 2 Peter 1:21 The words written down in Scripture are God’s words. Do we trust God’s sovereign choice of words over clever man-made theology? |
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Post by duncan on May 8, 2023 14:47:53 GMT -8
Were at one time? Lol. sorry don't mean to laugh. Almost sounds like something to avoid? Like the plague! It's always better to preach the Bible instead of Calvinism because the Bible’s words are God-breathed, not some theological formulations. Paul tells us “all Scripture is breathed out by God” Every Scripture is God-breathed (given by His inspiration) and profitable for instruction, for reproof and conviction of sin, for correction of error and discipline in obedience, [and] for training in righteousness (in holy living, in conformity to God’s will in thought, purpose, and action), 17 So that the man of God may be complete and proficient, well fitted and thoroughly equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:16–17 For no prophecy ever originated because some man willed it [to do so—it never came by human impulse], but men spoke from God who were borne along (moved and impelled) by the Holy Spirit 2 Peter 1:21 The Amplified Bible (La Habra, CA: The Lockman Foundation, 1987), 2 Pe 1:21. The words written down in Scripture are God’s words. Do we trust God’s sovereign choice of words over clever man-made theology? But who would preach Calvinism? That doesn't make any sense. How can that be done? The Calvinists I've seen in posts use the word as you say above. I just don't get it. |
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Post by Obadiah on May 8, 2023 15:50:44 GMT -8
Like the plague! It's always better to preach the Bible instead of Calvinism because the Bible’s words are God-breathed, not some theological formulations. Paul tells us “all Scripture is breathed out by God” 16Every Scripture is God-breathed (given by His inspiration) and profitable for instruction, for reproof and conviction of sin, for correction of error and discipline in obedience, [and] for training in righteousness (in holy living, in conformity to God’s will in thought, purpose, and action), 17 So that the man of God may be complete and proficient, well fitted and thoroughly equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:16–17 For no prophecy ever originated because some man willed it [to do so—it never came by human impulse], but men spoke from God who were borne along (moved and impelled) by the Holy Spirit 2 Peter 1:21 The words written down in Scripture are God’s words. Do we trust God’s sovereign choice of words over clever man-made theology? But who would preach Calvinism? That doesn't make any sense. How can that be done? The Calvinists I've seen in posts use the word as you say above. (So do cults, they are expert in twisting the scriptures)
I just don't get it. Well do the deep dive into it. Preach the Bible, Not CalvinismBy P.J. TibayanHow to Teach and Preach “Calvinism” by John Piper top Calvinist teacher. The Fine Points of Calvinism by RC Sproul top Calvinist teacher. Preach the 5 points and you are preaching Calvinism. |
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Post by civic on Jun 7, 2023 10:13:32 GMT -8
Good point he was a disciple but not a believer. He was elect but not a believer, he was chosen but not a believer. This is where Calvinism fails. Curious, where in that does Calvinism fail? Not that I agree with Calvinism, but I don't see your proof. Elect = saved. |
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Post by Theophilus on Jun 7, 2023 12:29:02 GMT -8
Curious, where in that does Calvinism fail? Not that I agree with Calvinism, but I don't see your proof. Elect = saved. Judas never had a change of heart. We know that Judas felt remorse for his actions (Matthew 27:3) and knew he sinned. His sorrow, however, did not lead to true repentance and a change of heart, as it did for Peter (see Luke 22:55 - 62, John 18:17, 25 - 27, etc.). It led to him committing suicide (Matthew 27:5, Acts 1:18). This is Interesting: Calvinist Nightmare: The Judas Dilemma |
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