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Post by bloodbought1953 on Sept 12, 2022 20:25:41 GMT -8
We get Saved by Believing Paul’s Gospel found In 1Cor15:1-4.....Plus Nothing , or Jesus is a Liar .....you ADD to the Gospel Of Pure Grace just like Paul warned us NOT to do in the Book Of Galatians....You teach a “ False and Perverted” Gospel ....nowhere is “ Repentance “ or “ Baptism” mentioned in 1Cor15:1-4.....According to Paul in Gal.1:8 You are “ Accursed” and those that follow your False teachings are “ Fallen from Grace” and “ Severed From Christ”.....You and your ILK are in serious Jeopardy....Read Galatians and try to prove me wrong.....C’mon.....it’s just 6 short chapters.....ask God to open your eyes....there could be hope for you Yet!
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Post by bloodbought1953 on Sept 12, 2022 20:37:06 GMT -8
“If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.”
You “ doeth Righteousness” by Trusting Jesus to Save you....any OTHER Firm Of “ Righteousness” that excludes “ that” is a waste of time as far as Salvation is concerned....John ain’t talking about returning to the Law or any “ Other” type of Good Behavior to get Saved.....You “ DO Right” by Resting in the Finished Work Of The Cross....
I’d sure hate to be the one arguing against THAT!
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Post by yacker on Sept 13, 2022 0:22:50 GMT -8
Love God with all our hearts, minds, and souls, and love our neighbors as ourselves. YOU don't do this, nor does anybody else —- unless your name was Jesus If we’re capable in these weak bodies of Flesh to actually “ DO” these things , Jesus died in Vain.... Why not be honest and humble yourself and admit that you cant rise to the Standard that God demands if you choose to go the “performance route”: for your Salvation.....God has provided a “ way out” of trying to present your Performance as your means Of Justification...It’s not called the “ Good News” for no reason....It’s called “ The Gospel”...... read all about it in 1Cor15:1-4 That's a good point you make not many people seem to see, People think they are trying to love but God is Love, Show people Jesus then they will see the real example of Love "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" and "We love him, because he first loved us." The Gospel shows the Love God has for us, that while we where sinners Christ died for us |
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Post by civic on Sept 13, 2022 5:20:59 GMT -8
Love God with all our hearts, minds, and souls, and love our neighbors as ourselves. YOU don't do this, nor does anybody else —- unless your name was Jesus If we’re capable in these weak bodies of Flesh to actually “ DO” these things , Jesus died in Vain.... Why not be honest and humble yourself and admit that you cant rise to the Standard that God demands if you choose to go the “performance route”: for your Salvation.....God has provided a “ way out” of trying to present your Performance as your means Of Justification...It’s not called the “ Good News” for no reason....It’s called “ The Gospel”...... read all about it in 1Cor15:1-4 That's a good point you make not many people seem to see, People think they are trying to love but God is Love, Show people Jesus then they will see the real example of Love "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" and "We love him, because he first loved us." The Gospel shows the Love God has for us, that while we where sinners Christ died for us Many people wonder about God, what God is like etc....... My answer is always the same . Read about Jesus in the gospels. To see Him is to see God, to know what God is like is to see what Jesus was like. How He interacted with people, loved them, had compassion etc.... He was always the hardest on the religious Jews- pharisees those filled with pride. God resists the proud but give grace to the humble. And since Jesus was humble we know that God is also humble. hope tis helps !!! |
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Post by rickstudies on Sept 13, 2022 9:16:42 GMT -8
That's a good point you make not many people seem to see, People think they are trying to love but God is Love, Show people Jesus then they will see the real example of Love "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" and "We love him, because he first loved us." The Gospel shows the Love God has for us, that while we where sinners Christ died for us Many people wonder about God, what God is like etc....... My answer is always the same . Read about Jesus in the gospels. To see Him is to see God, to know what God is like is to see what Jesus was like. How He interacted with people, loved them, had compassion etc.... He was always the hardest on the religious Jews- pharisees those filled with pride. God resists the proud but give grace to the humble. And since Jesus was humble we know that God is also humble. hope tis helps !!! When I think about Jesus I picture Him as He appeared to John in Revelation. He is worthy to be praised and to my mind His humble days are behind Him. I question whether it`s appropiate for our Great King. But I certainly appriciate the humanity of Christ and understand your point of view. |
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Post by hansen on Sept 14, 2022 7:14:28 GMT -8
Love God with all our hearts, minds, and souls, and love our neighbors as ourselves. YOU don't do this, nor does anybody else —- unless your name was Jesus If we’re capable in these weak bodies of Flesh to actually “ DO” these things , Jesus died in Vain.... Why not be honest and humble yourself and admit that you cant rise to the Standard that God demands if you choose to go the “performance route”: for your Salvation.....God has provided a “ way out” of trying to present your Performance as your means Of Justification...It’s not called the “ Good News” for no reason....It’s called “ The Gospel”...... read all about it in 1Cor15:1-4 That's a good point you make not many people seem to see, People think they are trying to love but God is Love, Show people Jesus then they will see the real example of Love "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" and "We love him, because he first loved us." The Gospel shows the Love God has for us, that while we where sinners Christ died for us The point is that we do-or should-love in return. It's love that's been wrought by Him in us, beginning as we turn to Him in faith, but, as a result, it's our love, received as a gift of grace, and ready to be expressed. "But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life." Rom 6:21
"And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us." Rom 5:5
"The only thing that counts is faith working through love." Gal 5:6 Love is the heart and soul of the Christian faith as its Source is the heart and soul of the Christian faith. Without it, we're not like Him, not His children. Without it we won't be saved. You're stuck on what amounts to little more than a mental concept based on selective and isolated readings of Paul-and so your gospel is incomplete. |
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Post by yacker on Sept 14, 2022 16:47:06 GMT -8
The point is that we do-or should-love in return. It's love that's been wrought by Him in us, beginning as we turn to Him in faith, but, as a result, it's our love, received as a gift of grace, and ready to be expressed. "But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life." Rom 6:21
"And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us." Rom 5:5
"The only thing that counts is faith working through love." Gal 5:6 Love is the heart and soul of the Christian faith as its Source is the heart and soul of the Christian faith. Without it, we're not like Him, not His children. Without it we won't be saved. You're stuck on what amounts to little more than a mental concept based on selective and isolated readings of Paul-and so your gospel is incomplete. Where did my gospel isn't Complete come from, you haven't asked, Jesus Blood cleanses us from all sin what would you like to know instead of throwing lies around out of the blue Its easy talking about it or trying to fake it but the effect will be obvious, The point is we love him because he first Loved us, if you want to put definitions on Love you don't understand what Love is, If you think talking like that on a forum is anything like it then I doubt anyone wants it, Talk is cheap Charity is not you will know them by there fruits, What you suggest is Fake Love Packaged in your works Without God in you you cant do any works for God no matter how hard you try, You must be born again then you can show the Love of God in your life but its not your love Its Gods love shinning through you as God is Love, You can express it but not in your own power because without him you cant do anything |
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Post by yacker on Sept 14, 2022 16:56:08 GMT -8
Many people wonder about God, what God is like etc....... My answer is always the same . Read about Jesus in the gospels. To see Him is to see God, to know what God is like is to see what Jesus was like. How He interacted with people, loved them, had compassion etc.... He was always the hardest on the religious Jews- pharisees those filled with pride. God resists the proud but give grace to the humble. And since Jesus was humble we know that God is also humble. hope tis helps !!! When I think about Jesus I picture Him as He appeared to John in Revelation. He is worthy to be praised and to my mind His humble days are behind Him. I question whether it`s appropiate for our Great King. But I certainly appriciate the humanity of Christ and understand your point of view. The Cross brings Glory to God 1 Corinthians 1 23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. The gospel of Christ is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believes |
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Post by yacker on Sept 14, 2022 17:18:48 GMT -8
Many people wonder about God, what God is like etc....... My answer is always the same . Read about Jesus in the gospels. To see Him is to see God, to know what God is like is to see what Jesus was like. How He interacted with people, loved them, had compassion etc.... He was always the hardest on the religious Jews- pharisees those filled with pride. God resists the proud but give grace to the humble. And since Jesus was humble we know that God is also humble. hope tis helps !!! Jesus is the image of the invisible God, The image of his person, You see Jesus You see God Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature "He that hath seen me hath seen the Father" The word became flesh, the Son of God came to show the world what the father is really like, the only one that could show the riotousness of God, The word of God I find it interesting from the beginning to the end its all based on trusting the Word of God, Trusting what he said will be completed, trusting in his promises, trusting his word I was reading Genesis in the midst of judgement Adam grabbed onto a promise God made that a seed will be born and will bruise the serpents head, He saw that promise of God and after death came into the world he called his wife living |
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Post by yacker on Sept 14, 2022 17:30:06 GMT -8
“If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.” You “ doeth Righteousness” by Trusting Jesus to Save you....any OTHER Firm Of “ Righteousness” that excludes “ that” is a waste of time as far as Salvation is concerned....John ain’t talking about returning to the Law or any “ Other” type of Good Behavior to get Saved.....You “ DO Right” by Resting in the Finished Work Of The Cross.... I’d sure hate to be the one arguing against THAT! Right we have no ability to achieve righteousness in and of ourselves. But we have the righteousness of Christ, because “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). On the cross, Jesus exchanged our sin for His perfect righteousness so that we can stand before God and He will not see our sin, but the holy righteousness of Jesus. so "he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous." comes naturally, rest in God and walk by faith, Like I'm harping on on this site Without Jesus we cant do anything |
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Post by bloodbought1953 on Sept 15, 2022 2:24:29 GMT -8
That's a good point you make not many people seem to see, People think they are trying to love but God is Love, Show people Jesus then they will see the real example of Love "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" and "We love him, because he first loved us." The Gospel shows the Love God has for us, that while we where sinners Christ died for us The point is that we do-or should-love in return. It's love that's been wrought by Him in us, beginning as we turn to Him in faith, but, as a result, it's our love, received as a gift of grace, and ready to be expressed. "But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life." Rom 6:21
"And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us." Rom 5:5
"The only thing that counts is faith working through love." Gal 5:6 Love is the heart and soul of the Christian faith as its Source is the heart and soul of the Christian faith. Without it, we're not like Him, not His children. Without it we won't be saved. You're stuck on what amounts to little more than a mental concept based on selective and isolated readings of Paul-and so your gospel is incomplete. You are Correct.....I am “Stuck”......I have been Stuck for Many years...I’m Stuck on ROM 10:13......” Anybody that asks to be Saved WILL BE Saved”....... What a great place to be “ Stuck!” To put it rather Crudely, it appears that when it comes to Salvation, “ The Monkey” is on GOD’S back and not mine....He PROMISED to FInISH the “Good Work” That HE started .....Maybe I’m a fool, but I just happen to take God at His Word......Isn’t That what “ Faith” is all about? .....If So , I got it .......That’s why I am Saved.... |
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Post by bloodbought1953 on Sept 15, 2022 2:48:25 GMT -8
Love is the heart and soul of the Christian faith as its Source is the heart and soul of the Christian faith. Without it, we're not like Him, not His children
Mere Religionists and Legalist will never Love God......all they can do is offer up “ Lip Service” because it’s another “ Rule” they must follow......
It’s IMPOSSIBLE to Love God as long as you are “ under the Lash” —— they are always worried about their “PERFORMANCE” ......of course, they ALL say “ JESUS SAVES” , but they just cant leave it at that—— it’s always , “ Jesus Saves, BUT!” .....These Lost and Confused people say “Jesus Saves, BUT once you know THAT, you gotta Repent All Of your Sins Before you die, or ya gotta make sure you don’t commit a Willful Sin, or ya gotta “live the life”, or Keep the Commandments, blah, blah, blah......
It’s only the Gratitude one obtains by knowing in your heart that ALL of your Sins have been forgiven, understanding that you REST in that fact and when you understand the Truth that the Weight Of having to “ Perform” is gone, THEN you will Love God......No Rest equals No honest Love....
If and when it hits you that we don’t have to work to “ make ourselves Worthy” to enter Heaven and if and when you realize that we are “ MADE” Worthy by the Blood Of The Lamb.......THEN Love will follow.....
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Post by hansen on Sept 15, 2022 9:45:05 GMT -8
Love is the heart and soul of the Christian faith as its Source is the heart and soul of the Christian faith. Without it, we're not like Him, not His children Mere Religionists and Legalist will never Love God......all they can do is offer up “ Lip Service” because it’s another “ Rule” they must follow...... It’s IMPOSSIBLE to Love God as long as you are “ under the Lash” —— they are always worried about their “PERFORMANCE” ......of course, they ALL say “ JESUS SAVES” , but they just cant leave it at that—— it’s always , “ Jesus Saves, BUT!” .....These Lost and Confused people say “Jesus Saves, BUT once you know THAT, you gotta Repent All Of your Sins Before you die, or ya gotta make sure you don’t commit a Willful Sin, or ya gotta “live the life”, or Keep the Commandments, blah, blah, blah...... It’s only the Gratitude one obtains by knowing in your heart that ALL of your Sins have been forgiven, understanding that you REST in that fact and when you understand the Truth that the Weight Of having to “ Perform” is gone, THEN you will Love God......No Rest equals No honest Love.... If and when it hits you that we don’t have to work to “ make ourselves Worthy” to enter Heaven and if and when you realize that we are “ MADE” Worthy by the Blood Of The Lamb.......THEN Love will follow..... I have no idea what you're talking about. Love is love; we either have it or we don't, and we can have it to lesser or greater dregree depending on how "perfected in love" we are. It's a work of God's in us-it's the very definition of the righteousness of God- that comes from Him to us- that we're promised. And love simply works, or acts, by its nature for the good of others. And if we don't love we don't know God-we're not one of His children. It's really about as simple as that. And 'made worthy' means that we've received that righteousness since God gives even more than forgivness of sin, and then that we haven't compromised that worthiness by living unworthily, returning to the flesh. Any gratefulness would be a joke and a lie and a mockery of God if we remained in or returned to our sin. Regardless of any profession of faith. |
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Post by bloodbought1953 on Sept 17, 2022 3:01:11 GMT -8
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Post by civic on Sept 17, 2022 6:01:35 GMT -8
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